Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [img]http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr84/Metagross386/Yugioh/NeoSpaceSeeker.png[/img] Designed to help Divine Neos mostly. Unsure about it's first effect if it's too much or not. [color=#ff0000][b]1ST NOTE: Pretend all the Neo-Spacians have NEX forms.[/b][/color] [color=#ff0000][b]2ND NOTE: It is now restricted to level 8 or lower Fusions.[/b][/color] [color=#ff0000][b]3RD NOTE: Disallowing battle damage due to OTKs.[/b][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Easy Marine Dolphin? YES, PLZ =D Looks like pretty solid design. Sends itself back so no constant abuse. Not really searchable, because it's not a HERO, Warrior, etc. Basically, just a nice card to add to consistency without breaking anything. Seems perfect to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='Relius Clover' timestamp='1329110692' post='5814204'] Easy Marine Dolphin? YES, PLZ =D Looks like pretty solid design. Sends itself back so no constant abuse. Not really searchable, because it's not a HERO, Warrior, etc. Basically, just a nice card to add to consistency without breaking anything. Seems perfect to me. [/quote] Essentially, this. Now if we just had Miracle Contact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='Wingal Brave' timestamp='1329111237' post='5814212'] Essentially, this. Now if we just had Miracle Contact... [/quote] Well I mean, summoning a Neos and using this on a NEX fusion works just as well. Wich now reminds me I need to make a NEX version of the other Neo Spacians... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 The picture is a bit weird, but I like the idea of the card. But the only thing is I would be careful of copying the effect. There are many Fusion cards that have effects like "discard one card, spin a monster to the deck" and being able to chose from those each turn could be annoying. Even with that, it is not really OP'd, and it could bring back lots of the old fusions good job. Edit: and would it send itself back in the end phase? Because the fusions say they go back in the end phase, but this card copies effects only until the end phase so :s I would think it would not spin itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329111353' post='5814214'] Well I mean, summoning a Neos and using this on a NEX fusion works just as well. Wich now reminds me I need to make a NEX version of the other Neo Spacians... [/quote] inb4insta-bannablenexmole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Yeah, looking back... Careful with some of them @_@ Storm, Magma, and Air Neos are big ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel. Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329110452' post='5814199'] Designed to help Divine Neos mostly. Unsure about it's first effect if it's too much or not. [/quote] Atk>>a little power over Effect>> sending a hero,Neo just plain OTK and leaching, gaining effect of strategies for elemental heros :got a bro who plays this deck: that would make it a super kill help (5/10) ___ Meant was your card is overpowered just a huge help in the elemental decks ___ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='mikel.' timestamp='1329111939' post='5814227'] Atk>>a little power over Effect>> sending a hero,Neo just plain OTK and leaching, gaining effect of strategies for elemental heros :got a bro who plays this deck: that would make it a super kill help (5/10) [/quote] I'm sorry, but what's the point of this post? You didn't say anything at all, and it doesn't make any sense, so, tell me what the point of it is. If you think it's bad, where's your constructive criticism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1329111420' post='5814216'] The picture is a bit weird, but I like the idea of the card. But the only thing is I would be careful of copying the effect. There are many Fusion cards that have effects like "discard one card, spin a monster to the deck" and being able to chose from those each turn could be annoying. Even with that, it is not really OP'd, and it could bring back lots of the old fusions good job. Edit: and would it send itself back in the end phase? Because the fusions say they go back in the end phase, but this card copies effects only until the end phase so :s I would think it would not spin itself. [/quote] Don't care about pic frankly. Yes it is abusive. Hence the restriction. [quote] During the End Phase: Return this face-up card to your Deck. [/quote] .-. [quote name='mikel.' timestamp='1329111939' post='5814227'] Atk>>a little power over Effect>> sending a hero,Neo just plain OTK and leaching, gaining effect of strategies for elemental heros :got a bro who plays this deck: that would make it a super kill help (5/10) ___ Meant was your card is overpowered just a huge help in the elemental decks ___ [/quote] All you have said is "Card is broke lol". Please give a reason why it's broke and what breaks it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329112427' post='5814234'] Don't care about pic frankly. Yes it is abusive. Hence the restriction. [/quote] Oups. My bad about not noticing the restriction. And why don't you care about the pic? I mean, you got this coolio template and all (where did you get it BTW) but then this really random picture. Also, it would be better as a warrior IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1329113960' post='5814252'] Oups. My bad about not noticing the restriction. And why don't you care about the pic? I mean, you got this coolio template and all (where did you get it BTW) but then this really random picture. Also, it would be better as a warrior IMO. [/quote] Warrior would break it further ._. It needs some sort of drawback, which I didn't notice until after my first post, because it's a walking Heavy Storm X_X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1329113960' post='5814252'] Oups. My bad about not noticing the restriction. And why don't you care about the pic? I mean, you got this coolio template and all (where did you get it BTW) but then this really random picture. Also, it would be better as a warrior IMO. [/quote] Warrior would've made it searchable. Right now it's not. Also, I don't care about the pic because I found the pic to suit the card, which is much, much harder than making a card to suite the pic. And define "Heavy Storm". I'm not seeing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1329114659' post='5814258'] Warrior would've made it searchable. Right now it's not. Also, I don't care about the pic because I found the pic to suit the card, which is much, much harder than making a card to suite the pic. And define "Heavy Storm". I'm not seeing it. [/quote] Storm Neos Dump it for this, blow up all ST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Ok...suggestions on changes that don't ruin it? Maybe limit it to fusion monsters with only 2 materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Yeah, but then how would it work with the NEX variants, seeing as they don't HAVE materials? .~. Maybe restrict it by level of the target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 8 or lower? Restricts from all 3 material neos fusions and limits other fusions at least while still allowing most other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 That was what I was thinking. Only potential abuse I see is air Neos, but... It wouldn't make that consistent enough to matter, would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 Forgot about storm. Then just put in the level 8 or lower restriction and make it a warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 1st post edited because I cba'd to edit in photoshop and reupload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1329115876' post='5814273'] Forgot about storm. Then just put in the level 8 or lower restriction and make it a warrior. [/quote] No. Making it a warrior BREAKS IT. It's a 1900 beater that can turn into any E-HERO fusion or NEX variant. Considering thigns like Nova Master, Wild Wingman, Air Neos, etc., making it a warrior would be too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I made it not a warrior because cards like RotA exist. Giving it search support is bad. If anything I'd make it a Neo Spacian for their support, but not a Warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrus Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 This is OP'd for the sheer variety it has for a generic level 4 effect monster. Not to mention this would work with Absolute Zero's, which completely breaks it. How is a level 4 non-restricted walking Raigeki good card design? If you think about it, this is a portable Divine Neos too. Why do people here think this is good and balanced is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 It doesn't work with absolute zero ._. None of the hero effects are overly abusable, with the chance of an exception in Air Neos, which already had it's own OTK. I don't see why you're so high and mighty when you're spamming like you claimed I was. I can already tell what a problem you are in just 2 htreads, so kindly watch your tongue and add something constructive, or watch your ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='Gandorator' timestamp='1329132441' post='5814402'] This is OP'd for the sheer variety it has for a generic level 4 effect monster. Not to mention this would work with Absolute Zero's, which completely breaks it. How is a level 4 non-restricted walking Raigeki good card design? If you think about it, this is a portable Divine Neos too. Why do people here think this is good and balanced is beyond me. [/quote] 1. Absolute Zero activates after it leaves the field. As soon as this leaves the field, it's copy effect is no longer in effect. So Ab0 doesn't work. 2. Divine Neos doesn't have to copy fusions and doesn't bounce at the End Phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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