WWECENA Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 hi guys here is an original card to support Neo-Spacian monster so plz tell me what you think [img]http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4528/104134m.jpg[/img] effect: All face-up "Neo-Spacian" monsters on the field gain 1000 ATK. Once per turn. when an "Neo-Spacian" monster is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard. you can add 1 "Neo-Spacian" monster from your Deck to your hand. When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard by your opponent card effect, you can add 1 "Neo Space" from your Deck or Graveyard to your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 1000 ATK is a lot, considering Neo-Spaciens already have fine effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329521917' post='5823194'] 1000 ATK is a lot, considering Neo-Spaciens already have fine effects. [/quote] It's really not that much, considering that Neo-Spacians have such low ATK to begin with. Otherwise, the card is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1329522129' post='5823209'] It's really not that much, considering that Neo-Spacians have such low ATK to begin with. Otherwise, the card is good. [/quote] well if the cards had low ATK to begin with, then they had it for a reason. They arent supposed to be on the field for long, you should know that there are buttloads of cards meant to return monsters, and to keep them on the field(i.e. [u]trap cards[/u]), AND you can fuse Neo-Spaciens to get even more powerful ones. They do perfectly well without 1000 ATK points extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted February 17, 2012 Report Share Posted February 17, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329522751' post='5823237'] well if the cards had low ATK to begin with, then they had it for a reason. They arent supposed to be on the field for long, you should know that there are buttloads of cards meant to return monsters, and to keep them on the field(i.e. [u]trap cards[/u]), AND you can fuse Neo-Spaciens to get even more powerful ones. They do perfectly well without 1000 ATK points extra. [/quote] You're missing the point here. Sure, they're used to Contact Fusion into the Neos Fusion Monsters, but you're not always going to have Elemental Hero Neos / Neos Alius available to do so, so these Neo-Spacians need some way to fight back, ie in this case, +1000 ATK boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1329523067' post='5823256'] You're missing the point here. Sure, they're used to Contact Fusion into the Neos Fusion Monsters, but you're not always going to have Elemental Hero Neos / Neos Alius available to do so, so these Neo-Spacians need some way to fight back, ie in this case, +1000 ATK boost. [/quote] I guess, but then there should be maybe some sort of price to keep that effect active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329523358' post='5823274'] I guess, but then there should be maybe some sort of price to keep that effect active. [/quote] ...why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329521917' post='5823194'] 1000 ATK is a lot, considering Neo-Spaciens already have fine effects. [/quote] what zanda panda said [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1329522129' post='5823209'] It's really not that much, considering that Neo-Spacians have such low ATK to begin with. Otherwise, the card is good. [/quote] thanx [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329522751' post='5823237'] well if the cards had low ATK to begin with, then they had it for a reason. They arent supposed to be on the field for long, you should know that there are buttloads of cards meant to return monsters, and to keep them on the field(i.e. [u]trap cards[/u]), AND you can fuse Neo-Spaciens to get even more powerful ones. They do perfectly well without 1000 ATK points extra. [/quote] actually Neo-Spaciens need to stay on the field longer to eventually [font="tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif"]Contact Fusion with neo and their effect don't really help them that's why i did this card [/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1329523418' post='5823278'] ...why? [/quote] because, 1000 free ATK to every Neo-Spacien is just alot. [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1329523454' post='5823280'] actually Neo-Spaciens need to stay on the field longer to eventually [font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Contact Fusion with neo and their effect don't really help them that's why i did this card [/font] [/quote] I sort of see your point, but, you could always use trap cards to protect the Neo-Spaciens too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329523907' post='5823306'] because, 1000 free ATK to every Neo-Spacien is just alot.[/quote] By that logic, Skyscraper should have a price to give Elemental HEROEs the 1k boost, as well. Really, 1k boost is nothing when it comes to monsters with less than 1000 ATK. The only monster that might go over 2k with this card is Neo-Spacian Flare Scarab, but that isn't enough to make this cards ATK boost "too much". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1329524030' post='5823311'] By that logic, Skyscraper should have a price to give Elemental HEROEs the 1k boost, as well. Really, 1k boost is nothing when it comes to monsters with less than 1000 ATK. The only monster that might go over 2k with this card is Neo-Spacian Flare Scarab, but that isn't enough to make this cards ATK boost "too much". [/quote] well its my logic, and by it, I do think anything that gives an attack boost of 1k+ should have a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329524254' post='5823323'] well its my logic, and by it, I do think anything that gives an attack boost of 1k+ should have a price. [/quote] Lolololol, you're so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1329524406' post='5823327'] Lolololol, you're so bad. [/quote] you think im wrong? explain your reasoning then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 For Neo Spacian, you should have just made the atk gain at 500ish or something yes they don't have much atk, but their effects compensate for it I'm unsure with the constant adding of Neo Spacians to your hand via that effect, seems a bit too easy to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guuu1234 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329524605' post='5823337'] you think im wrong? explain your reasoning then. [/quote] 1000 is a lot, but not to much because it supports an archetype that has extremly low attack (the most a neo-spacian will normally get with this is 2000), which only makes them worth playing. Skyscraper supports the original heroes (who have attack higher then neo-spacians, but NO effect), but the draw back is that they must battle a strongdr monster. grapha/snow/gates are terribly designed cards, but for an archetype that could have used them. This is not a terribly designed card, and is good support for an archetype that needs it. It also covers the major weakness with them, so kudos to the creator for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1329525233' post='5823361'] For Neo Spacian, you should have just made the atk gain at 500ish or something yes they don't have much atk, but their effects compensate for it I'm unsure with the constant adding of Neo Spacians to your hand via that effect, seems a bit too easy to do [/quote]I totally agree.>.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329525355' post='5823365'] I totally agree.>.> [/quote] I mean yes you can say 1000 atk isn't much, but atk changing card effects aren't exactly rare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329524605' post='5823337'] you think im wrong? explain your reasoning then. [/quote] Why do I need to explain something that I've explained in this thread already? [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329525355' post='5823365'] I totally agree.>.> [/quote] Figures that you would agree with ragnarok, a member of YCM that has no f***ing experience with YuGiOh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='guuu1234' timestamp='1329525326' post='5823363'] 1000 is a lot, but not to much because it supports an archetype that has extremly low attack (the most a neo-spacian will normally get with this is 2000), which only makes them worth playing. Skyscraper supports the original heroes (who have attack higher then neo-spacians, but NO effect), but the draw back is that they must battle a strongdr monster. grapha/snow/gates are terribly designed cards, but for an archetype that could have used them. This is not a terribly designed card, and is good support for an archetype that needs it. It also covers the major weakness with them, so kudos to the creator for that. [/quote] Yes, Neo-Spaciens' weakness is their lower ATK, but, that's why trap cards were invented. There are already a bunch of cards to increase ATK points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329525869' post='5823397'] Yes, Neo-Spaciens' weakness is their lower ATK, but, that's why trap cards were invented. There are already a bunch of cards to increase ATK points. [/quote] Wow, that's, your argument? "YUGIOH ALREADY HAS TRAP CARDS AND CARDS THAT CAN INCREASE ATK". Just because Trap Cards are in the game doesn't mean that Neo-Spacians can survive with Trap Cards alone. If you honestly think that you will win without being offensive with Neo-Spacians, then you're worse than I actually thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1329526043' post='5823405'] Wow, that's, your argument? "YUGIOH ALREADY HAS TRAP CARDS AND CARDS THAT CAN INCREASE ATK". Just because Trap Cards are in the game doesn't mean that Neo-Spacians can survive with Trap Cards alone. If you honestly think that you will win without being offensive with Neo-Spacians, then you're worse than I actually thought. [/quote] ugh... my point is that trap cards can protect your Neo-Spacien, and you have a good variety of trap cards and Neo-Spaciens, then you can win the game without bombarding your opponent every chance you get. ATK isn't everything, actually it doesnt count for much. You should know they make all kinds of trap cards that deal damage, and protect cards, and then there are Spell Cards too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329523907' post='5823306'] because, 1000 free ATK to every Neo-Spacien is just alot. I sort of see your point, but, you could always use trap cards to protect the Neo-Spaciens too. [/quote] i can't reli on trap cards only to protect neo spaciens and 1000 atk is not alot if the monster that getting the boost has 500 ATK [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1329525233' post='5823361'] For Neo Spacian, you should have just made the atk gain at 500ish or something yes they don't have much atk, but their effects compensate for it I'm unsure with the constant adding of Neo Spacians to your hand via that effect, seems a bit too easy to do [/quote] sorry ragnarok i have to disagree with you on this one but neo spacians effects doesn't help them fight back or have fighting chance so 1000 ATK is very decent for them [quote name='guuu1234' timestamp='1329525326' post='5823363'] 1000 is a lot, but not to much because it supports an archetype that has extremly low attack (the most a neo-spacian will normally get with this is 2000), which only makes them worth playing. Skyscraper supports the original heroes (who have attack higher then neo-spacians, but NO effect), but the draw back is that they must battle a strongdr monster. grapha/snow/gates are terribly designed cards, but for an archetype that could have used them. This is not a terribly designed card, and is good support for an archetype that needs it. It also covers the major weakness with them, so kudos to the creator for that. [/quote] thanx dude and you know what i really wish that all the people that said all the harsh thing about me in the last post and all the people that said all my card are op piece of [color=#000000][font=arial, sans-serif][size=3]garbage to come and see this card and tell me what they think [/size][/font][/color] [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1329525869' post='5823397'] Yes, Neo-Spaciens' weakness is their lower ATK, but, that's why trap cards were invented [/quote] dude you don't see the point like zanda said [size=4][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Neo-Spacians can survive with Trap Cards alone[/font][font=arial, sans-serif] [/font][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 The 1000 ATK gain isn't dangerous. At worst, Panther has 2000 ATK, and 2000 ATK isn't really threatening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWECENA Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='~King Crouton~' timestamp='1329526951' post='5823444'] The 1000 ATK gain isn't dangerous. At worst, Panther has 2000 ATK, and 2000 ATK isn't really threatening. [/quote] ya i don't know why this dude don't see this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='WWECENA' timestamp='1329527176' post='5823458'] ya i don't know why this dude don't see this point [/quote] huh.... anyways I have to leave, but just listen ok? [size=5][b][u][i]I am saying that Neo-Spaciens don't need a 1k ATK boost. I am saying Trap cards can protect Neo-Spaciens.[/i][/u][/b][/size] [size=5][size=4]just think about it[/size][/size] [size=5][size=4]goodbye.[/size][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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