Cloister Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [center][img]http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7726/47839j.jpg[/img][/center] [center]While this card is in your Graveyard; It is also treated as a Pyro-Type monster. When this card is Summoned: Send all Synchro and Xyz Monsters in your Graveyard to your Extra Deck. You can only control 1 "Bounceback Dragon".[/center] [center]PLSCMNT.[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 ... Oh God what O_o This is really broken in its own right. It's not a plus or minus, and it returns all your Extra Deck monsters that you want back in the extra TO the Extra X_X Synchro decks like Fableds would main this in a heartbeat. Grave renewal like this is really broken, though not in the same sense as other stuff. It's the ability to re-use whatever is in your grave that does it x.x Lower how much it returns, significantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 this is too powerful, Tometekorv. You're making this too anti-synchro and anti-xyz it doesn't even take much effort to summon the guy, you could at least start with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kale Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Eh, this guy is powerful but not too devastating. I love how he's a pyro [i]just[/i] so he can be targeted by rekindling. That's all that serves for... His effect can bounce back (hehe) potentially more monsters than avarice, but then again you don't draw from his effect. He doesn't bounce opposing monsters, only your own. This would add some variety to the Extra Deck in some decks, i suppose, as you wouldn't have to add two copies of something you need because of potential warnings or something. You could just recycle them with this guy. I would like to change the ease of his effect, though. How about Special Summoned from the Graveyard? That isn't too hard if he's already a pyro there (which i've already said was hilarious for the point of rekindling alone). That would add to the "bounce back" feature of his effect and name, too. I see no reason why it couldn't be that. It would also tone down the effect enough where it might be okay. but this card would never make it in real life. It would be used too often with all sort of pay off. 8/10. It was pretty interesting and original with a good image, it was just too powerful for it's own good. -kale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 [quote name='Kale' timestamp='1330049713' post='5836906'] I love how he's a pyro [i]just[/i] so he can be targeted by rekindling. That's all that serves for... [/quote] Rekindling works on FIRE, not pyro alone ._. [quote name='Kale' timestamp='1330049713' post='5836906'] His effect can bounce back (hehe) potentially more monsters than avarice, but then again you don't draw from his effect. [/quote] Even so, the ability to re-use things like Fabled Ragin, Junk Destroyer, Formula Synchron, and Xyz, etc. is broken. Especially considering it bounces ALL the ones in Grave =/ [quote name='Kale' timestamp='1330049713' post='5836906'] He doesn't bounce opposing monsters, only your own. [/quote] Which makes him MORE broken .-. [quote name='Kale' timestamp='1330049713' post='5836906'] This would add some variety to the Extra Deck in some decks, i suppose, as you wouldn't have to add two copies of something you need because of potential warnings or something. You could just recycle them with this guy. [/quote] No one runs multiple copies of anything except Drill Warrior, Junk Destroyer, Evolzar Laggia, Fabled Ragin, and Synchros that are currently on the banned list. I missed a few, but... They're run in multiples because they're GOOD, not because a second chance. [quote name='Kale' timestamp='1330049713' post='5836906'] I would like to change the ease of his effect, though. How about Special Summoned from the Graveyard? That isn't too hard if he's already a pyro there (which i've already said was hilarious for the point of rekindling alone). That would add to the "bounce back" feature of his effect and name, too. I see no reason why it couldn't be that. It would also tone down the effect enough where it might be okay. [/quote] I kinda see what you mean... But Rekindling abuse makes it too easy. Should be restricted a number like 2-3. [quote name='Kale' timestamp='1330049713' post='5836906'] but this card would never make it in real life. It would be used too often with all sort of pay off. 8/10. It was pretty interesting and original with a good image, it was just too powerful for it's own good. -kale. [/quote] It's not totally unrealistic, just too strong. Needs a restriction on what it can return, is all. It's not original, though, lots of cards do this sorta thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MibeR Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Still Relius, it is used only on Mid Games, maybe Late. But i do agree on how much it returns to Extra, it is like easier summon version of Daigusto Emeral. Limit maybe only 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 [quote name='Syns' timestamp='1330055173' post='5837120'] Still Relius, it is used only on Mid Games, maybe Late. But i do agree on how much it returns to Extra, it is like easier summon version of Daigusto Emeral. Limit maybe only 2. [/quote] No ._. Pot of Avarice can be used turn 1. So can this. 2-3 sounds a good limit, and, even then, it's abusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MibeR Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Yes i know Avarice can be at turn 1, because of Wind-Ups made a ton of monster in the first turn and dumping a lot monster in the graveyard. but i suppose this is a Laval support, at used at the mid games. (Havent know and played laval yet though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 Avarice could be used turn 1 WAAAAAAY before wind-ups, and other things can use it turn 1 =.= And, yes, Lavals and Flamvells could use it, but so could any synchro or Xyz spam, especially with Chaos Xyz Change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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