Lunar Origins Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/VsNIO.jpg[/IMG] Obviously its best use is going for game. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Funny thing is, back then dumping your monsters was actually a bad thing because you needed them in your hand, making this card useless. Now look how good it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='DJVD' timestamp='1330198385' post='5840183'] Funny thing is, back then dumping your monsters was actually a bad thing because you needed them in your hand, making this card useless. Now look how good it is now. [/quote] *looks at how good it is now* Am I supposed to be seeing something? Because it's still bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Use in Lightsworns-*shot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1330198436' post='5840187'] *looks at how good it is now* Am I supposed to be seeing something? Because it's still bad [/quote] Decks like Skull Servants, Lightsworns, Sabers, Zombies, ect ect ect ect ect ect love this card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='DJVD' timestamp='1330198677' post='5840195'] Decks like Skull Servants, Lightsworns, Sabers, Zombies, ect ect ect ect ect ect love this card [/quote] Not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1330198734' post='5840197'] Not really [/quote] They do in my decks, especially Skull Servants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='~~Xiahou Dun~~' timestamp='1330198467' post='5840189'] Use in Lightsworns-*shot* [/quote] No, no, no, you use it in LightraySworns--*shot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='DJVD' timestamp='1330198861' post='5840203'] They do in my decks, especially Skull Servants. [/quote] I don't really want to hear your supposedly good unique builds of a deck. Leave it for Your Deck, instead of acting like it's amazing because you use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1330198985' post='5840212'] I don't really want to hear your supposedly good unique builds of a deck. Leave it for Your Deck, instead of acting like it's amazing because you use it. [/quote] [IMG]http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu180/Nancru/meme/557bfa03.jpg[/IMG] also, not AS bad as it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Used to be godly in Frog OTK. Now it still has it's uses in Lightsworns, some Chaos builds, ect. Not too many great uses for this card this format (OCG Lavals and Lightrays being the probably the best use and even then, not incredible), but to call it fail is certainly a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 BLS is at 1 and Chaos Sorcerer is at 3. I'm not seeing how this is bad because it provides a Chaos engine for Zombies (and other stuff obviously) and pretty much grabs stuff like backrow hate/draw power/revival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 I'm probably a terrible person for having used this in Plant Synchro before the Deck was actually called Plant Synchro, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 I never said it was bad. It's an amazing card. Say you run a deck that OTKs, like the one I was using. Though it's a bad deck, Merchant adds to the consistency because he can mill half of my deck before I grab Rekindling or Overload Fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='~~Xiahou Dun~~' timestamp='1330198467' post='5840189'] Use in Lightsworns-*shot* [/quote] It appears that I'm in a possession of the proper screenshot. [spoiler=Proper screenshot][img]http://i42.tinypic.com/kevh9s.jpg[/img][/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='Sakuya' timestamp='1330199609' post='5840238'] I never said it was bad. It's an amazing card. Say you run a deck that OTKs, like the one I was using. Though it's a bad deck, Merchant adds to the consistency because he can mill half of my deck before I grab Rekindling or Overload Fusion. [/quote] SEE, THIS PERSON GETS IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 urghflargleflargle magical merchant in flamvells. urgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumberCruncher Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1330200130' post='5840254'] urghflargleflargle magical merchant in flamvells. urgh. [/quote] I'm not sure why you seem convinced this card is awful. Give one peice of justification for this belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 It's not in pure flamvells, it's in a specialized OTK build that utilizes Machina monsters, Jinzo, and Overload Fusion while having those as backup plans and synchroing. It was just an idea a nice friend gave me, it seemed really fun. And it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='NumberCruncher' timestamp='1330200415' post='5840259'] I'm not sure why you seem convinced this card is awful. Give one peice of justification for this belief. [/quote] Here's three. [b]1. Is it good this format?[/b] No. Says nothing to Rabbit, Wind-Ups or Inzektors. [b]2. Is it good design?[/b] HERP DERP LETS MAKE A CARD THAT ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO MILL HALF THEIR DECK. [b]3. Is there any deck that it can be used in?[/b] Apart from Magical Merchant Turbo, which is basically reliant on this one card otherwise it pretty much dies first turn, no. Flamvells - Non-Magical Merchant build is 20x better. Zombies - Non-Magical Merchant build is 20x better. Skull Servants - Non-Magical Merchant build is 20x better. Chaos - When all Lightsworns are better and you can easily just run Doomcalibers and Rai-Ohs for chaos fodder, meh. Lightsworns - Uses Magical Merchant for milling. Forgets that your deck already runs about 300 milling cards. Though, it's an Insect and therefore cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 I dunno Rai, it definitely has its place in a few specific builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1330200711' post='5840268'] Though, it's an Insect and therefore cool. [/quote] >Run in Inzektors >Mill ALL the Hornets *shoots himself in the knee* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='ɢαlαхy' timestamp='1330200953' post='5840280'] I dunno Rai, it definitely has its place in a few specific builds. [/quote] There are a few. Just none worth saying massively, especially since Lightsworns will probably overshadow this card largely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Rai, you look at the bad qualities of the card while throwing away the better qualities. [b]Does it promote OTKs?[/b] Yes, it does. But these OTKs can easily be countered- add that to the fact that it has to be flipped, which is more reliant on your opponent than you, lest you play defensive (which you shouldn't be doing, as you shouldn't run traps in a Merchant centric deck), in order to activate its effect. It's not good this format because of the destruction effects that run rampant in our meta- You have Inzektors, Rabbit, Wind-ups, and other things, all which will shut down the OTK you would usually pull off before it happens. Agents also would ruin the decks chances, as Hyperion and Gachi could easily stop it. Good card design, though? These days, no. Please, explain to me in detail why the decks are better without it instead of just saying "OH, THESE ARE 20X BETTER". Please, do explain. I want to see why they are so much better without merchant, since you have obviously tested with him in the deck in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1330201074' post='5840286'] Just none worth saying massively, especially since Lightsworns will probably overshadow this card largely. [/quote] 36 monster fableds are offended by you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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