MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Is this kind of card OP'ed? I have other cards like this with more exciting effects, but I wanna see if theyre too broken/bad. [img]http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8461/355616g.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 nice card name Well it's SLIGHTLY like Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End, but less powerful, which is good since that card was OPed enough as it is still I don't really think this is going to burn your opponent all that much yes draw power cards are more abundant these days, but I doubt you'll get more than 1000 per turn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 It's not broken per se, but burn in itself is just a terrible concept for cards. It greatly reduces the contact between players, why do you think most people hate to face burn decks? Because they can't do anything without taking effect damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogg-Saron Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1330299987' post='5842913'] It's not broken per se, but burn in itself is just a terrible concept for cards. It greatly reduces the contact between players, why do you think most people hate to face burn decks? Because they can't do anything without taking effect damage. [/quote] This. Also, might I suggest a more original name for the card? Seems like Burn is just to blunt and short. Though, most of my card names are short MOST are unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1330299876' post='5842907'] nice card name still I don't really think this is going to burn your opponent all that much [/quote] 1. Original isnt it? 2. Well yeah but then again, it still packs a punch over time. [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1330299987' post='5842913'] It's not broken per se, but burn in itself is just a terrible concept for cards. It greatly reduces the contact between players, why do you think most people hate to face burn decks? Because they can't do anything without taking effect damage. [/quote] Yeah, I see what your saying. Its especially bad with spells and traps since they're harder to get rid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1330300281' post='5842924'] 1. Original isnt it? 2. Well yeah but then again, it still packs a punch over time. Yeah, I see what your saying. Its especially bad with spells and traps since they're harder to get rid of. [/quote] you're making it sound like your opponent's actually going to let it STAY on the field like that long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1330300333' post='5842926'] you're making it sound like your opponent's actually going to let it STAY on the field like that long [/quote] Fingers are crossed!! Just kiding. Even if its only for a few turns it is still going to do atleast 1000-1500 damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 yeah but again, 1000 isn't THAT much.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1330301195' post='5842950'] yeah but again, 1000 isn't THAT much.... [/quote] yeah but remember this is a test card. I'll have some better ones up probably tommorrow evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 if you change it just 400 per card, that would be better and more practical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1330301449' post='5842960'] if you change it just 400 per card, that would be better and more practical [/quote] yeah that would be better, is 500 pushing the limit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 that would be bordering the limit yes at 2000 burn per turn, well it's not OTK, but it's too close to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1330301589' post='5842968'] that would be bordering the limit yes at 2000 burn per turn, well it's not OTK, but it's too close to it [/quote]hmm yeah. I'll change it to 400.edited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 400 burn per turn. Meh. First let me say that I hate burn - the entire mechanic feels terribad to me. However, let me have a look at the card... So. Basically it is a once-per-turn Des Koala that is immune from Inzektor s*** bcz it activates during YOUR end phase. The fact that it is a continuous spell balances it (actually decreases its power) because it ends up not working in bubbleman burn. If this was a normal spell, it would be at the heights of brokenness because it would a 2000 first turn burn for bubbleman burn. Now, it only works with more classic burn and/or chain burn - I would play it with the 2nd. 1200-2000 burn is good for any burn deck, and could possibly cause it to troll everybody again and top a YCS. Basically, it would give all forms of burn much more power. It would allow them to get 1200-2000 consistently per turn until they found a way of blowing this thing up. That is a lot of burn. As for creativity, there are a million other weaker forms of that card, so it does not really seem to fit in there much. Speaking of balance, I suppose since burn sucks anyway, it is sorta balanced, although it is hard to evaluate just how much extra power this would give burn. Speaking of overall card design, I hate it (no offense) because I think burn is bad for the game and is an entirely luck based deck. So ya. those are my incredibly biased thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FF Fan Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 I've been wondering this for a while. Why do a lot of people on here say "meh"? What does that even mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='FF Fan' timestamp='1330307486' post='5843256'] I've been wondering this for a while. Why do a lot of people on here say "meh"? What does that even mean? [/quote] [color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3][QUOTE name="Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia"] "[/size][/font][/color][b]Meh[/b][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]" is an [/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interjection"]interjection[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3], often used as an expression of [/size][/font][/color][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indifference_(emotion)"]indifference[/url][color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3] or boredom. [/QUOTE][/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]Use the Google, Luke.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]Oh yea, and if this was next week (not sure when next week begins) you would have just received a warning for talking off topic (I probably would have been too).[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=sans-serif][size=3]Anyways, make the "Burn" card a trap. At least that way it has to survive a turn. Yea, I know that would make it much less powerful. I am not a big fan of powerful burn cards tho.[/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1330301879' post='5842985'] hmm yeah. I'll change it to 400. edited [/quote] then now it should be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1330306995' post='5843218'] 400 burn per turn. Meh. First let me say that I hate burn - the entire mechanic feels terribad to me. However, let me have a look at the card... So. Basically it is a once-per-turn Des Koala that is immune from Inzektor s*** bcz it activates during YOUR end phase. The fact that it is a continuous spell balances it (actually decreases its power) because it ends up not working in bubbleman burn. If this was a normal spell, it would be at the heights of brokenness because it would a 2000 first turn burn for bubbleman burn. Now, it only works with more classic burn and/or chain burn - I would play it with the 2nd. 1200-2000 burn is good for any burn deck, and could possibly cause it to troll everybody again and top a YCS. Basically, it would give all forms of burn much more power. It would allow them to get 1200-2000 consistently per turn until they found a way of blowing this thing up. That is a lot of burn. As for creativity, there are a million other weaker forms of that card, so it does not really seem to fit in there much. Speaking of balance, I suppose since burn sucks anyway, it is sorta balanced, although it is hard to evaluate just how much extra power this would give burn. Speaking of overall card design, I hate it (no offense) because I think burn is bad for the game and is an entirely luck based deck. So ya. those are my incredibly biased thoughts. [/quote]ok, wow thats alot of writing. So what Im getting is, its a good burn, but it sucks because its a burn, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1330310629' post='5843421'] ok, wow thats alot of writing. So what Im getting is, its a good burn, but it sucks because its a burn, right? [/quote] Erm... sorta. It sux in card design, not the card itself. If you get what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORPHINGJARFORTHEWIN Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1330310806' post='5843433'] Erm... sorta. It sux in card design, not the card itself. If you get what I mean. [/quote]hmm yeah.. so its positive right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='My mom' timestamp='1330310927' post='5843444'] hmm yeah.. so its positive right? [/quote] Positive? Sorry... I don't know what you mean. If you mean a good release from a burn players perspective, then ya. If you mean a good release from my perspective, then no. If you mean a good release from a card designers perspective... IMO no, but biased player is biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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