Anti-Apocryphal Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Welcome to this Set that I shall finish. This set is based off of a new idea I made in order to use the dice block more- it's called [b]unKnown Summoning. [/b] unKnown Summoning has the same requirements as other types of Summoning (ie: You must still tribute to summon a level 5 monster, use Xyz materials for Xyz summoning, four stars or less get a regular summon, etc.). However, this is what happens when you unKnown Summon: You must roll the dice block. Whatever number it lands on comes with the summon. Check the spoilers below for more information. [spoiler=How the Text Reads] [quote] Can only be Summoned by unKnown Summon.[/quote] Immediantly following the unKnown Summon comes the unKnown dice block roll. This is what is means by the above quote.[/spoiler] [spoiler=Dice Block Operations] As the above spoiler explains, immediantly after the unKnown Summon comes the dice block roll. Here are the values of the dice block (values WILL NOT be stated on the card): 1) Increase your Life Points by 300 2) Decrease your opponent's Life Points by 100 3) Increase a monster in the Graveyard's ATK by 200 4) Increase a monster in the Graveyard's DEF by 200 5) Draw 1 card; then discard 1 from your hand 6) Roll again Note that you only roll the dice block when an unKnown [b]monster [/b]is summoned, not when Traps/Spells are placed/used/destroyed. [/spoiler] [center][spoiler=unKnown Set][/center] [center][spoiler=Monsters (3/9/12 Cards Added)][/center] [center][img]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4816/205642.jpg[/img][/center] [center][i]Can only be Summoned by unKnown Summon. When this card is unKnown Summoned: Select 1 Level 2 or lower unKnown monster from your Graveyard; banish it: This card gains ATK equal to the ATK of the banished card.[/i][/center] [center][img]http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/4816/205642.jpg[/img][/center] [center][i]Can only be Summoned by unKnown Summon. During each of your Standby Phases: Select 1 Level 3 or lower "unKnown" monster from your Graveyard; equip it to this card as an Equip Spell Card; increase the DEF of this card equal to the ATK of the selected monster. If this monster is destroyed in face-up Defense Position with an Equip Spell Card: Pay 700 Life Points; Special Summon this card in face-down Defense Position.[/i][/center] [center][img]http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4816/205642.jpg[/img][/center] [center][i]Can only be Summoned by unKnown Summon. When this card is unKnown Summoned: Search your Deck for 1 "unKnown: Universal Umbeing", and add it to your hand; shuffle your Deck. As long as a "unKnown: Universal Umbeing" is on the field: Neither player can Summon a Level 6 or higher monster without 1 extra Tribute. If either player controls a Level 6 or higher monster: They must pay 300 Life Points at the end of each turn. [/i][/center] [center][img]http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/1603/205642q.jpg[/img][/center] [center][i]Can only be Summoned by unKnown Summon. When this card is unKnown Summoned: Place 1 "Crush" Counter on this card (max. 10). During each of your Standby Phases: Place 1 "Crush" Counter on this card. The ATK of this card is equal to the number of "Crush" Counters on this card x300. While this face-up Attack Position monster is on the field: If you control another Level 2 or lower "unKnown" monster: This card cannot be destroyed by battle or by the effects of a Trap Card.[/i][/center] [center][img]http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8115/205642y.jpg[/img][/center] [center][i]A warrior of the unKnown, this warrior cloaks himself within the dark planted vines in the unKnown Universe, waiting for prey to come along so he can poison them and use them for food.[/i][/center] [center][img]http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4816/205642.jpg[/img][/center] [center][i]Can only be Summoned by unKnown Summon. When this card is unKnown Summoned: Discard your entire hand; place "Swarm" Counters on this card equal to the number of cards discarded in this way (max. 7). During each player's Draw Phase: You can discard 1 card to place 1 "Swarm" Counter on this card. When this card has 7 "Swarm" Counters on it: This card can attack your opponent directly. This card cannot attack unless it has 7 "Swarm" Counter on it. [/i][/center] [center][img]http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/1486/205642p.jpg[/img][/center] [center][i]Can only be Summoned by unKnown Summon. When this card is unKnown Summoned: Search your Graveyard for any Level 4 or lower "unKnown" monster and equip it to this card as an Equip Spell Card with this effect: During each of your Standby Phases, if this is the only monster you control: This card can attack your opponent directly. If this card is destroyed as a result of battle in face-up Attack Position: You can unKnown Summon 1 "unKnown: Shearing Ice Dragon" from your hand.[/i][/center] [center][img]http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1486/205642p.jpg[/img][/center] [center][i]Can only be Summoned by unKnown Summon. One turn after this card is unKnown Summoned: You may discard 1 card from your hand; unKnown Summon 1 Level 2 or lower "unKnown" monster from your Graveyard.[/i][/center] [center][IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/nb407.jpg[/IMG][/center] [center][i]Commonly found in the jungles of the unKnown, these fairies use black magic on those who confront them in battle.[/i][/center] [center][IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/3499gtv.jpg[/IMG][/center] [center][i]From deep in the unKnown Universe came this one Shuttle Visitor. When in packs, they are known to cause significant damage.[/i][/center] [center][IMG]http://i43.tinypic.com/350usyg.jpg[/IMG][/center] [center][i]Can only be Summoned by unKnown Summon. When this card is unKnown Summoned: You can discard 1 card; unKnown Summon 1 Level 4 or lower non-effect "unKnown" monster from your Graveyard in face-up Defense Position. For every non-effect monster on the field, increase the ATK of this card by 200. If this card gains more than 700 ATK in this way: Destroy this card; inflict piercing damage equal to the number of non-effect monsters in your combined Graveyards x300.[/i][/center] [center][/spoiler][/center] [center][spoiler=Spells][/center] [center][img]http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5863/205642r.jpg[/img][/center] [center][i]While this card is on the field: For each discarded "unKnown" monster, increase 1 selected monster's ATK by 100 during each of your Standby Phases. If this card is destroyed as a result of the effects of a Trap Card: Draw 1 card.[/i][/center] [center][img]http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/8115/205642y.jpg[/img][/center] [center][i]As long as this card is face-up on the field: During each of your Battle Phases, you may discard 1 "unKnown" monster from your hand; Select 1 face-up Level 4 "unKnown" monster on the field: Increase the ATK of the selected monster equal to half the ATK of the discarded monster. At the end of each End Phase, if a monster's ATK was increased by this effect: Destroy the selected card. [/i][/center] [center][img]http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4816/205642.jpg[/img][/center] [center][i]When you unKnown Summon: Increase the ATK of 1 "unKnown" monster your control by 700. If the selected card destroys a card your opponent controls: Your opponent can attack you directly during their next Battle Phase.[/i][/center] [center][/spoiler][/center] [center][spoiler=Traps][/center] [center][img]http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/4816/205642.jpg[/img][/center] [center][i]Activate only when a Level 5 or higher "unKnown" monster is destroyed as a result of battle: Inflict 1100 piercing damage to your opponent; Select 1 Level 4 or lower "unKnown" monster from your Graveyard: Add it to your hand.[/i][/center] [center][img]http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/4816/205642.jpg[/img][/center] [center][i]Activate only when your opponent declares a Direct Attack with a Level 5 or higher monster: Pay 1200 Life Points; destroy the attacking monster. You must skip your next Draw and Battle Phase after activating this effect.[/i][/center] [center][img]http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4816/205642.jpg[/img][/center] [center][i]Activate only when you or your opponent controls 3 or more monsters: Neither player can Summon monsters Level 5 or higher except by paying 800 Life Points. If a Level 5 or higher monster destroys another card while this card is face-up: Inflict 500 piercing damage to the owner of the attacking monster.[/i][/center] [center][/spoiler][/spoiler][/center] [right][i]Image Credit to El Bartonka[/i][/right] [right][color=#000000][font=Arial][size=1]© Copyright 2012 Eternity (Future Paradise)[/size][/font][/color][/right] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 I'll overlook the unknown fake type it's Winged Beast, not Winged-Beast right now the atk gain part is ok, nothing really new but I'm going to need to see the rest of the set before I know where this is going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Apocryphal Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1330301118' post='5842947'] I'll overlook the unknown fake type it's Winged Beast, not Winged-Beast [b]Thanks for letting me know.[/b] right now the atk gain part is ok, nothing really new [b]I'm trying to gradually work into it.[/b] but I'm going to need to see the rest of the set before I know where this is going [b]Great to hear.[/b] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 To be honest, all this says is: [quote]This card cannot be destroyed by Bottomless Trap Hole, Solemn Warning or Solemn Judgment, and then add a random good effect.[/quote] uhhuh. That's not broken at all to let every single one have built in protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Apocryphal Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1330301529' post='5842966'] To be honest, all this says is: uhhuh. That's not broken at all to let every single one have built in protection. [/quote] Are you on the right topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 hey Future Paradise, just as a heads up (though not right now) once the set becomes TOO big, make sure to tell is WHICH cards you added so we can find them quickly, ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='Future Paradise' timestamp='1330301784' post='5842986'] Are you on the right topic? [/quote] Yes. Unless an unKnown Summon counts as a Normal Summon or Special Summon, any decent card in the set will be broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Apocryphal Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1330301828' post='5842987'] hey Future Paradise, just as a heads up (though not right now) once the set becomes TOO big, make sure to tell is WHICH cards you added so we can find them quickly, ok? [/quote] kk [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1330301836' post='5842988'] Yes. Unless an unKnown Summon counts as a Normal Summon or Special Summon, any decent card in the set will be broken. [/quote] All an unKnown Summon does is add a dice roll- that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='Future Paradise' timestamp='1330301990' post='5842992']All an unKnown Summon does is add a dice roll- that's it. [/quote] But what does it count as? A Normal Summon, a Special Summon, a Flip Summon, or does it come under its own category and is [b]not [/b]treated as any of the preceding ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Apocryphal Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1330302147' post='5842997'] But what does it count as? A Normal Summon, a Special Summon, a Flip Summon, or does it come under its own category and is [b]not [/b]treated as any of the preceding ones? [/quote] I'm afraid I can't answer this in words; let's use examples. I unKnown Summon a Level 4 monster. That's it- I just regularly summon it, with the unKnown boost. I unKnown Summon a Level 5 monster. I tribute 1 monster, then precede with the unKnown boost. I unKnown Summon a Level 8 monster. I tribute 2 monsters, then precede with the unKnown boost. I unKnown Summon an Xyz monster. I Xyz summon, then precede with the unKnown boost. I Synchro Summon a Synchro monster. I Synchro Summon, then procede with an unKnown boost. *unKnown boost means the dice roll that comes after each of these summons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='Future Paradise' timestamp='1330302358' post='5843009'] I'm afraid I can't answer this in words; let's use examples. I unKnown Summon a Level 4 monster. That's it- I just regularly summon it, with the unKnown boost. I unKnown Summon a Level 5 monster. I tribute 1 monster, then precede with the unKnown boost. I unKnown Summon a Level 8 monster. I tribute 2 monsters, then precede with the unKnown boost. I unKnown Summon an Xyz monster. I Xyz summon, then precede with the unKnown boost. I Synchro Summon a Synchro monster. I Synchro Summon, then procede with an unKnown boost. *unKnown boost means the dice roll that comes after each of these summons [/quote] > Does it count as a Normal Summon or a Special Summon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Apocryphal Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1330302420' post='5843012'] > Does it count as a Normal Summon or a Special Summon [b]It's not a Special or Normal Summon in itself; it depends on the card. I get what you're asking but am having a hard time wording the answer.[/b] [/quote] Depends on the card. If it requires it to be a Special Summon; it's a Special Summon. If it doesn't require Special Summoning (or any of the others), it's a Normal Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 If you're going to mention a Tribute for a Level 5 monster, then it should be obvious that it takes up a Normal Summon, no? And dude, you can't unknown summon a Synchro / Xyz Monster, you Synchro / Xyz Summon them. :I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='Future Paradise' timestamp='1330302533' post='5843018'] Depends on the card. If it requires it to be a Special Summon; it's a Special Summon. If it doesn't require Special Summoning (or any of the others), it's a Normal Summon. [/quote] eeeh. So technically, you'd treat Winged Dragon Tamer as a Normal Summon-esque unKnown Summon because it has no requirements that would otherwise be on a Special Summon-esque unKnown Summon? That's iffy wording. Because: [quote]Can only be unKnown Summoned. When this card is unKnown Summoned:[/quote] Imagine an unKnown monster that can be unKnown Summoned (the Special Summon way). It has the exact same wording as a Normal Summon-esque one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Apocryphal Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1330302586' post='5843022'] If you're going to mention a Tribute for a Level 5 monster, then it should be obvious that it takes up a Normal Summon, no? And dude, you can't unknown summon a Synchro / Xyz Monster, you Synchro / Xyz Summon them. :I [/quote] Since when? Not with this newly created thing. I'm not a TCG freak, just a cardmaker. [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1330302807' post='5843031'] eeeh. So technically, you'd treat Winged Dragon Tamer as a Normal Summon-[b]esque[/b] unKnown Summon because it has no requirements that would otherwise be on a Special Summon-esque unKnown Summon? That's iffy wording. Because: Imagine an unKnown monster that can be unKnown Summoned (the Special Summon way). It has the exact same wording as a Normal Summon-[b]esque [/b]one. [/quote] "esque"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='Future Paradise' timestamp='1330381531' post='5844740'] Since when? Not with this newly created thing. I'm not a TCG freak, just a cardmaker. "esque"? [/quote] Esque implying similar to. Basically: Say I unKnown Summon a Level 4 monster that has no requirements for its unKnown Summon. Does it go towards your limit of how many Normal Summons per turn, and if so, is it actually treated as a Normal Summon or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Apocryphal Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1330381709' post='5844747'] Esque implying similar to. Basically: Say I unKnown Summon a Level 4 monster that has no requirements for its unKnown Summon. Does it go towards your limit of how many Normal Summons per turn, and if so, is it actually treated as a Normal Summon or not? [/quote] It's still treated as a Normal Summon. The "unKnown" part that I added to it is basically an [i]addition [/i]to whatever summon you do. Anyways, new card....wait about 3 mins. for it to load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='Future Paradise' timestamp='1330382016' post='5844760'] It's still treated as a Normal Summon. The "unKnown" part that I added to it is basically an [i]addition [/i]to whatever summon you do. Anyways, new card....wait about 3 mins. for it to load. [/quote] How do you figure out which ones are Normal Summons and which one are Special Summons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Apocryphal Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1330382194' post='5844766'] How do you figure out which ones are Normal Summons and which one are Special Summons? [/quote] It's only treated as a Special Summon when a card effects specifies it. If it doesn't specify a Special Summon, it's not a Special Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray-Crow Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 the whole unKnown thing is rather pointless.just make cards with "When this card is summoned, roll a die. Based on the result, activate 1 of the following effects: etc etc" not sure if thats correct ocg but i think ppl understand me. then, make each monster have 2 effects. one saying "Even number: etc etc" and "Odd number: etc etc". or you can assign numbers. im just saying even and odds so card text wont be so small and crowded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Apocryphal Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='salseethrough' timestamp='1330382668' post='5844784'] the whole unKnown thing is rather pointless.just make cards with "When this card is summoned, roll a die. Based on the result, activate 1 of the following effects: etc etc" not sure if thats correct ocg but i think ppl understand me. then, make each monster have 2 effects. one saying "Even number: etc etc" and "Odd number: etc etc". or you can assign numbers. im just saying even and odds so card text wont be so small and crowded. [/quote] Do you realize how tiny the text would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray-Crow Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 if you just make an effect applying for all evens and all odds. meaning only two effects per card. its not gonna be ridiculously small. maybe like your second card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Apocryphal Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 It's much simpler, though, for more complicated effects to just have a way of Summoning to put it into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoTwice Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 But it's not a method of summoning... you don't do anything different in order to unKnown summon a monster. The only difference is the dice effects, so the summon type should not be changed. If you want to introduce a new way of summoning monsters, do so, but this isn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Apocryphal Posted February 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 [quote name='NeoTwice' timestamp='1330384847' post='5844887'] But it's not a method of summoning... you don't do anything different in order to unKnown summon a monster. The only difference is the dice effects, so the summon type should not be changed. If you want to introduce a new way of summoning monsters, do so, but this isn't one. [/quote] I can see your point in this, but I still want to disagree. lol The only difference is this is a [i]specified summon [/i]for [i]specified monsters [/i](being the unKnown monsters; found in the cards' title), while at the same time not implying a special new(ish) way of summoning; it's adding an effect to specified monsters, hence the new unKnown Summoning way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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