Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1330404958' post='5845718'] I usually only run 2, mostly due to space. It's a great card, definitely, being chainable and very simple, thus versatile as bait, or chainable S/T removal. Can work as a good bluff, too. And when Dustshoot goes away, it'll be even better, as Dustshoot was MST's greatest enemy. [/quote] The only person I know of that would wait for an MST to use his Dustshoot was Adam Kolb, and he's sitting in jail right now. Most people use their Dustshoots in the Draw or Standby Phases, so MSTing a Dustshoot is irrelevant except in the End Phase. [quote name='Welche' timestamp='1330406502' post='5845772'] Send me a PM in a hour with a link to this post and remind me to like it. MST to one would make for an awesome format. [/quote] Have you not played from after Yata-lock until like 2-4 formats ago when MST got Semi'd. [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1330407481' post='5845795'] Honestly, with the new S/T removal cards (basing it on my list): MST @1 Night Shot @2 Heavy @0 Storm @3 [/quote] Sorry, what's the difference between Heavy and Storm? Depending on what it is, you're format is god-awful. Do you enjoy "Set 5, pass"? [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1330434290' post='5845954'] I don't think you understand how much else I'd ban. :3 [/quote] Self-made formats are often god awful. I have experience with it. There's way too much bias. I tried to use my format to create a single best deck that was like Tele-DAD and/or Goat Control because I love those decks. [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1330440992' post='5846042'] About me page. Also, I don't know if I'm necessarily rewinding the game. [/quote] *checks* How often do you see people using more than one of these: [color=#FF0000][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=2][b]Leviair the Sea Dragon[/b][/size][/font][/color] [color=#FF0000][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=2][b]Tiras, Keeper of Genesis[/b][/size][/font][/color] [color=#FF0000][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=2][b]White Dragon Ninja[/b][/size][/font][/color] [b]Naturia Beast[/b] [b]Daigusto Emeral[/b] [b]Scrap Dragon[/b] [color=#FF0000][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=2][b]Wind-Up Zenmaines[/b][/size][/font][/color] Or more than 2 of these: [b]Effect Veiler[/b] [b]T.G. Striker[/b] Or summon more than 2 of these in a game: [b]Sacred Pleiades[/b] This isn't all, though. Your list makes Zombies the best deck. Do you want that? There are better choices, honestly. And you seem to be the kind of guy that likes diversity. This would be so bad. [quote name='RyanAtlus' timestamp='1330442124' post='5846053'] Feel like a pro when you take out cards out in the opponent's end phase. Feel like a noob when the opponent takes out your card in your end phase. I guess it's one of those cards that are your best friend untill used against you. [/quote] Using this in the End Phase is often a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Heavy Storm destroys all S/Ts, no questions. Storm destroys all your S/Ts and the same number of your opponent's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted February 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I was always under the impression that "Blind MST'ing" was when you set your MSTs. This thread clearly disproves that impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 [quote name='Brandon Michael Geren' timestamp='1330473590' post='5846845'] Self-made formats are often god awful. I have experience with it. There's way too much bias. I tried to use my format to create a single best deck that was like Tele-DAD and/or Goat Control because I love those decks. [/quote] I actually explained this very concept to Shard when his custom banlist was widely hated. There is no way for players to make a truly fair banlist. They want to kill the Decks they hate and support the Decks they like while pretending it's for the good of the game. Furthermore, players tend to want an extreme solution when a small penalty to a certain card would effectively neuter the brokenness (Infernity Launcher to 1, rather than the desired "Ban Launcher, limit Archfiend, Semi Necromancer) [quote name='~~Xiahou Dun~~' timestamp='1330474196' post='5846868'] I was always under the impression that "Blind MST'ing" was when you set your MSTs. This thread clearly disproves that impression. [/quote] Blind MST, to my knowledge, is to activate MST (usually from hand) against a Set S/T when there's more than 1 set backrow, and you have no clues as to its identity and are not making any big pushes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1330474012' post='5846863'] Heavy Storm destroys all S/Ts, no questions. Storm destroys all your S/Ts and the same number of your opponent's. [/quote] Set 5 pass format. Good job Aggro. [quote name='~~Xiahou Dun~~' timestamp='1330474196' post='5846868'] I was always under the impression that "Blind MST'ing" was when you set your MSTs. This thread clearly disproves that impression. [/quote] Blind MST'ing is much worse of a play. Blind MST'ing is playing the MST as soon as you draw it and/or as soon as it becomes live. Just immediately drop it on a random backrow. This play is terrible and the YCS Atlanta champion did it. If he didn't use only 1 MST, he might have done much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Main 2, side 1, because Gallis and his skank Witch of the Black Rose laugh at your 3 MSTs in hand, but they'll be nice this time. I'll just set this card. Come at me. OOOOOHHHH SNAP! It's Toy Magician! Nigga be comin' back at da End Phase fo sum Extra Deck targets! Dust dem shoulders, dawg. That, and it could get cloggy. The 3rd sided one is when your opponent uses a lot of annoying backrow cards than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 [quote name='~King Crouton~' timestamp='1330474822' post='5846892'] Main 2, side 1, because Gallis and his skank Witch of the Black Rose laugh at your 3 MSTs in hand, but they'll be nice this time. I'll just set this card. Come at me. OOOOOHHHH SNAP! It's Toy Magician! Nigga be comin' back at da End Phase fo sum Extra Deck targets! Dust dem shoulders, dawg. That, and it could get cloggy. The 3rd sided one is when your opponent uses a lot of annoying backrow cards than usual. [/quote] Continuous Traps are mean run 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 [quote name='RyanAtlus' timestamp='1330459854' post='5846337'] The only cards of which it can be discussed whether or not they fit into this definition are Card Trooper and Malicious, imo. [/quote] Dewloren and Tengu. J/s OT: I didn't read the thread. All I know is I blind MST all the time because I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 [quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1330476022' post='5846941'] Dewloren and Tengu. J/s OT: I didn't read the thread. All I know is I blind MST all the time because I can. [/quote] Lonefire Blossom I like how my first post is the most intelligent in the thread. Also, does anybody want me to talk about how to make reads and s*** like that? Cuz that's really one of the main ways to play this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 That is what I wanted to learn when I suggested this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted February 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 信仰' timestamp='1330487196' post='5847280'] That is what I wanted to learn when I suggested this topic. [/quote] OMG SOMEONE IS LEARNING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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