ragnarok1945 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 [quote name='Ɽarity' timestamp='1330559131' post='5848550'] Can't, I love living in a hooverville. He was only sticking by his beliefs, FDR was a president who helped but also was the closest thing we had to a dictator. [/quote] I always preferred Truman for dictatorship, thinking the A bomb was just a toy for his own fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1330559471' post='5848564'] I always preferred Truman for dictatorship, thinking the A bomb was just a toy for his own fun [/quote]What? Just for fun? Four options to get Japan to surrender. 1: Land Invasion, we would have lost 1,000,000 men as an estimation and Japan would lose 2,000,000 2: Peace Treaty: We had Britian and the Soviet Union, would Stalin actually be up for it? Hell no! 3: Test a bomb to scare them: We made 5, 1 was used in New Mexican. We scared them with it, and what if the didn't surrender? 3 were left and the world knows about them now. It took 4 years to make 5... 4: Use the A-Bomb on them straight on, we would still have more left than showing them what it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 I'll discuss with you on that part later (I'm a WWII fanatic myself) the point is presidents only care for their personal gains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Can you be so sure about that? Do you actually know what it is like to be President? Until you sit in their shoes, I don't think you can know what you're truly talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Honestly if you convince people to do things they don't want to do, at the very least you're a good leader. Truman basically paved the way for the United States to keep an upper hand on the Soviets. And it doesn't matter what his alternatives to the bomb were. The U.S.S.R was going to get involved if the Japanese continued fighting 90 days after V.E Day So unless you think we could've won over the Japanese in 3 months without some serious bombing raids, most of which would be more devastating than any atom bomb at that time, U CRAZY [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1330559144' post='5848553'] mfw I'm a monkey and Obama is black and I'm directly under his speech because Brazil is USA's doll because our government is s*** and they dominate our main money sources [/quote] You can't deny that Brazil is doing excellent in terms of economy [quote name='Clair' timestamp='1330557869' post='5848485'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVDvAob5a0E[/media] HE HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR TOO! [/quote] I watched that live I literally changed the channel seconds before he mentioned the milk-to-oil screw up *thatfeelingwasbetterthannutella* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='iRemo' timestamp='1330561015' post='5848621'] You can't deny that Brazil is doing excellent in terms of economy [/quote] We are, and I'm very proud and glad about that, but we still work in function to what America needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1330561094' post='5848622'] We are, and I'm very proud and glad about that, but we still work in function to what America needs. [/quote] As far as I know Brazil didn't suffer at all when the recession hit compared to the States Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1330561158' post='5848623'] As far as I know Brazil didn't suffer at all when the recession hit compared to the States [/quote] Because we HELPED you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Colonel Remo Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Yeah 0-0 I'd take the money and run And isn't Brazil the best country so far in South America Seeing as I don't recall ever learning of instability in that country compared to it's neighbors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1330561220' post='5848627'] Because we HELPED you. [/quote] there in lies the problem of presidency's entitlement crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Let me tell you guys how I see stuff: Brazil's currently the 6th biggest economy in the world. We have every natural reserve humanity needs, the biggest forests, some of the biggest plantations, a very stable economy in all kinds of view points, lots of oil, little to no natural disasters, and our life quality is rising a lot. But we can't do s*** for two reasons. -Our greedy and selfish government that tries to hide their bad deeds by creating pointless and flawed help programs to the poor; -Our scared and submiss government that can't stand up to America. We have everything. Excpet brains and determination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 then you just have to watch out for plundering once those orders are issued Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1330561698' post='5848643'] then you just have to watch out for plundering once those orders are issued [/quote] Sadly they won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='Mu-12' timestamp='1330561849' post='5848653'] Sadly they won't be. [/quote] you've learned too little from Avatar, my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1330562198' post='5848672'] you've learned too little from Avatar, my friend [/quote] Luckily I actually watched that movie. And honestly our government looks like those blue guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 I was referring to OURS in comparison to the RDA, Rodrigo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 This thread is literally making me throw up. *points to vomit on the floor* See? SEE WHAT YOUR LACK OF PERIODS HAS DONE TO ME, RAGNAROK? USE SOME GOD DAMN PUNCTUATION AND CAPITALIZATION! ....ehem. Sorry. Most, if not all, of what I read is unjustified BS that has next to nothing to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='Sakuya' timestamp='1330562599' post='5848693'] This thread is literally making me throw up. *points to vomit on the floor* See? SEE WHAT YOUR LACK OF PERIODS HAS DONE TO ME, RAGNAROK? USE SOME GOD DAMN PUNCTUATION AND CAPITALIZATION! ....ehem. Sorry. Most, if not all, of what I read is unjustified BS that has next to nothing to back it up. [/quote] back in the days the presidents don't exactly NEED anything to back up their BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1330562790' post='5848700'] back in the days the presidents don't exactly NEED anything to back up their BS [/quote]Rag, I'm only going to say this once: Your arguments have no basis and you're no longer making any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 *facedesk* Rag, I can't take you seriously if you don't even use correct punctuation and capitalization. You know, stuff you should have learned in like... kindergarten or something. Rag, your argument, or arguments, are really weak. You lack justification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Revan of the Sith Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 I am not going to start a debate and I am not going to try to cause animosity. I loved this speech it was great I like his points and I wish I could vote for him in November but I don't turn 18 until December. Thats all I am going to say. Sorry I wasted your time and I will not post here any further. I am not here to start a debate, that is for the debate section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='Cronus' timestamp='1330568501' post='5848939'] I am not going to start a debate and I am not going to try to cause animosity. I loved this speech it was great I like his points and I wish I could vote for him in November but I don't turn 18 until December. Thats all I am going to say. Sorry I wasted your time and I will not post here any further. I am not here to start a debate, that is for the debate section. [/quote] there's more than enough news to say not to vote for him anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindingTheEverlight Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1330563057' post='5848710'] Rag, I'm only going to say this once: Your arguments have no basis and you're no longer making any sense. [/quote] Ragnarok is right though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='Finding The Everlight' timestamp='1330581289' post='5849368'] Ragnarok is right though. [/quote]On what evidence has he posted of which we can base this on? All I can really see is "Obama is bad" with no real substance to tell me why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='Aggro' timestamp='1330581414' post='5849369'] On what evidence has he posted of which we can base this on? All I can really see is "Obama is bad" with no real substance to tell me why. [/quote] look at the state of the economy is in now. He hasn't made the problem disappear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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