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Tiki Trap Support (Adv. Clause)


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Upon scanning around I found the Tiki Monsters, Continuous Trap Monsters, but more importantly Trap Monsters. Evidently, I did some research and turns out they can be used for Xyz Summons (go figure). Now, back to the Tiki monsters; they support Continuous Trap Cards which means that, in doing so, could be some sort of support for summoning Uria, Lord of Searing Flames; I decided to get some form of Xyz to work with Continuous Traps and perhaps aid the destruction of Traps to feed the deadly beast that is the Flaming Leviathan. I was originally thinking of making them FIRE or DARK Attributed, but I reclined on the decision since it didn't look the part (image by El-Bartonka). So, have a look and see if I did alright!
[center][hr][img]http://i.imgur.com/nqreU.png[/img]

2 Level 4 Monsters
If the Xyz Materials of this card are Trap Cards treated as monsters: Your opponent cannot activate Trap Cards in response to this card's effect. During either player's turn you can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card: target 1 Continuous Trap Card in your Graveyard; add the targeted card to your hand (You can only use this effect during your turn, and you cannot set the Trap card during the turn you use this effect.)[/center]
[center][hr][img]http://i.imgur.com/JBHhk.png[/img]


2 Level 6 Monsters
You can also Xyz Summon this card by using a "Tiki Skull" you control as the Xyz Material. (Xyz Materials attached to that monster also become Xyz Materials on this card.) If the Xyz Materials of this card are Trap Cards treated as monsters: Your opponent cannot activate Trap Cards in response to this card's effect. During either player's turn: you can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; you can activate on of the following:
• Target 1 Spell or Trap card on the field; destroy the target.
• Target 1 Continuous Trap Card in your Graveyard; add the targeted card to your hand (You can only use this effect during your turn, and you cannot set the Trap card during the turn you use this effect.)[/center]
[left][hr]CnC Appreciated[/left]

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First off, the lore should /somehow/ be changed, because the Trap cards aren't technically treated as Monster cards anymore, just as a Trap card, since the cards' effect is negated. Problematic on how to word it since stuff like Xyz Reborn can attach itself to Xyz monsters. The no Trap chaining ability is cool, but won't be used 90% of the time. The overall effects are rather plain since the first says:

"Add 1 of this card's Trap Monster Xyz Materials to your hand."

The other says:

"MST or Add 1 of this card's Trap Monster Xyz Materials to your hand."

Useful, yes, but, rather plainly underpowered. The most simple way of fixing it?

Change the stats to 2300 and 2600 respectively.

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Kyng, the first card says you can use the effect during either player's turn when giving the conditions for activation, but then you state, between brackets, that you can only use it during your turn.

Eh...

As for the lore change Cursed suggested, allowing it to use its effect with Xyz Reborn would be a neat trick for these to pull, so leaving it at Trap would make it ideal.

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real impressive pics, you did well again for those my friend

we'll start with Skull: getting trap monsters used for xyz materials is a good idea. Finally Embodiment of Apophis will have some uses, though just getting a continuous trap to your hand is a bit meh

Masser Skull is better, though to destroy spells/traps by detaching xyz material is also meh. You should have allowed more than just ONE to be destroyed this way

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CnC has been appreciated! Thanks guys, I'll make the changes as soon as possible.

[quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1330542554' post='5848025']
First off, the lore should /somehow/ be changed, because the Trap cards aren't technically treated as Monster cards anymore, just as a Trap card, since the cards' effect is negated. Problematic on how to word it since stuff like Xyz Reborn can attach itself to Xyz monsters. The no Trap chaining ability is cool, but won't be used 90% of the time. The overall effects are rather plain since the first says:

"Add 1 of this card's Trap Monster Xyz Materials to your hand."

The other says:

"MST or Add 1 of this card's Trap Monster Xyz Materials to your hand."

Useful, yes, but, rather plainly underpowered. The most simple way of fixing it?

Change the stats to 2300 and 2600 respectively.
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Hmm, interesting critique. I was wondering due to possible Uria abuse this would somewhat overpower them, but looks liek I was wrong! I suppose a change to ATK & DEF should be able to somewhat serve a good purpose. As for the lore...really? Hmm, I genuinely didn't know that, I assumed from the other Tiki monster's lore that- Ahh, whatever, I'll make the changes. Thanks Rai.

[quote name='Mugendramon' timestamp='1330546561' post='5848109']
Kyng, the first card says you can use the effect during either player's turn when giving the conditions for activation, but then you state, between brackets, that you can only use it during your turn.

Eh...

As for the lore change Cursed suggested, allowing it to use its effect with Xyz Reborn would be a neat trick for these to pull, so leaving it at Trap would make it ideal.
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I do understand your confusion actually, so I'll try explain it, if that's okay: I believe that the- wait, I just realized my absolute derp O_O Yeah, I'll make the change. It's Tiki Skull, isn't it?

[quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1330558022' post='5848490']
real impressive pics, you did well again for those my friend

we'll start with Skull: getting trap monsters used for xyz materials is a good idea. Finally Embodiment of Apophis will have some uses, though just getting a continuous trap to your hand is a bit meh

Masser Skull is better, though to destroy spells/traps by detaching xyz material is also meh. You should have allowed more than just ONE to be destroyed this way
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Glad you like the images Ragnarok! I do understand your quarrel with the Continous Trap card recovery, but I felt that they could become slightly overpowered if they could recycle cards liek Mirror Force or Bottomless Trap hole; you know, super-Traps. I directed these guys for the Trap Monsters to somewhat give them juice as well as help for Uria Food ^^. Masser...hmm...interesting point you've made. I'll take it into consideration upon editing, thanks!

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