AsianGuy1137 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='evilkokonoe' timestamp='1330586043' post='5849434'] Your build must be terrible then. I get out double Atums + Gustaph first turn nearly all of the time. [/quote]Oh no, I don't waste time building bandwagon decks. I just know that it's not even close to being ban worthy with all the promotion the deck does alongside the inherent inferiority to the top tier meta. Let's not make this personal. You can call me up for a duel anytime, and I'd be happy to prove it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='AsianGuy1137' timestamp='1330610913' post='5849675'] Oh no, I don't waste time building bandwagon decks. [/quote] =/ You shouldn't be in this section, then... OT: 2nd favorite card of all time, and it finally found a deck where it's genuinely good <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 Do heiroglyphs and chaos dragons top large scale tournaments in the OCG? Let's not be the people who wanted grapha banned before columbus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='AsianGuy1137' timestamp='1330610913' post='5849675'] Oh no, I don't waste time building bandwagon decks. I just know that it's not even close to being ban worthy with all the promotion the deck does alongside the inherent inferiority to the top tier meta. Let's not make this personal. You can call me up for a duel anytime, and I'd be happy to prove it to you. [/quote] "Bandwagon" Okay, then, build your hipster deck and lose as much as you like. Just because you use the basic frame for a deck doesn't mean you're "bandwagoning", it means you're using that damn thing on your shoulders as more than a hat rack. To refuse to use the most consistent build is to be stupid, because it's not ignorant. Trying to find something better is one thing, but to just outright denounce what's been shown to be consistent... =/ Oh, btw, Hieroglyphs are topping in the OCG, so learn your stuff before you speak. OT: Rekindling and this are both breaking free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1330612932' post='5849694'] Oh, btw, Hieroglyphs are topping in the OCG, so learn your stuff before you speak. [/quote] Large scale tournaments consistently or locals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1330613780' post='5849711'] Large scale tournaments consistently or locals? [/quote] From what I've heard, large scale and they're new so just starting to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='evilhorus' timestamp='1330586648' post='5849440'] There's no telling how retarded I feel now I go around saying hieros are inconsistent shite And I only hear of this otk now fml [/quote] Card-Car D sure is a card. Say I' overhyping it, but its that good. Even Shard joined the bandwagon, and he was being a fa**** about it more than alot of people! [quote name='evilkokonoe' timestamp='1330586043' post='5849434'] Your build must be terrible then. I get out double Atums + Gustaph first turn nearly all of the time. [/quote] Going Atums stuff first turn is not really want to do in that deck. Makes you susceptible to dark hole. Best play is traps + duality + card-car d, and going second is OTK'ing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianGuy1137 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1330612932' post='5849694'] "Bandwagon" Okay, then, build your hipster deck and lose as much as you like. Just because you use the basic frame for a deck doesn't mean you're "bandwagoning", it means you're using that damn thing on your shoulders as more than a hat rack. To refuse to use the most consistent build is to be stupid, because it's not ignorant. Trying to find something better is one thing, but to just outright denounce what's been shown to be consistent... =/ Oh, btw, Hieroglyphs are topping in the OCG, so learn your stuff before you speak. OT: Rekindling and this are both breaking free [/quote]I never said they weren't good, just not ban worthy. Reasons? I've covered the gist of it above. Just cuz I don't like to use the newest hyped archetype doesn't mean I only build hipster builds. Heroes are consistent and solid, but not the current hype. That doesn't make them hipster. Also this discussion was originally over REDMD, so my opinion on Holy Marks should have nothing to do with whether or not I'm allowed to voice my opinion. You should learn to read before you speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='evilkokonoe' timestamp='1330586043' post='5849434'] Your build must be terrible then. I get out double Atums + Gustaph first turn nearly all of the time. [/quote]Still want to see your build. [quote name='AsianGuy1137' timestamp='1330610913' post='5849675']You can call me up for a duel anytime, and I'd be happy to prove it to you. [/quote]Oh, I've got to see this. [quote name='AsianGuy1137' timestamp='1330637804' post='5850341'] I never said they weren't good, just not ban worthy. Reasons? I've covered the gist of it above. Just cuz I don't like to use the newest hyped archetype doesn't mean I only build hipster builds. Heroes are consistent and solid, but not the current hype. That doesn't make them hipster. Also this discussion was originally over REDMD, so my opinion on Holy Marks should have nothing to do with whether or not I'm allowed to voice my opinion. You should learn to read before you speak. [/quote]Dude. We're not saying that the archetype is banworthy because of itself. We're saying that REDMD is banworthy because of this archetype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='AsianGuy1137' timestamp='1330637804' post='5850341'] I never said they weren't good, just not ban worthy. Reasons? I've covered the gist of it above. Just cuz I don't like to use the newest hyped archetype doesn't mean I only build hipster builds. Heroes are consistent and solid, but not the current hype. That doesn't make them hipster. Also this discussion was originally over REDMD, so my opinion on Holy Marks should have nothing to do with whether or not I'm allowed to voice my opinion. You should learn to read before you speak. [/quote] Well, taking into account the only reason for REDRUM being looked over for hitting [i]is[/i] because of this new hype archetype's consistent frame he is talking about, and saying Holy Marks are not consistent would mean that REDRUM isn't listworthy. Your argument said that it was though- and your reason for it couldn't possibly apply. Why? Because by the time the next list sees the light, the Structure Deck won't be in production anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='AsianGuy1137' timestamp='1330637804' post='5850341'] I never said they weren't good, just not ban worthy. Reasons? I've covered the gist of it above. Just cuz I don't like to use the newest hyped archetype doesn't mean I only build hipster builds. Heroes are consistent and solid, but not the current hype. That doesn't make them hipster. Also this discussion was originally over REDMD, so my opinion on Holy Marks should have nothing to do with whether or not I'm allowed to voice my opinion. You should learn to read before you speak. [/quote] I read. By calling everyone a bandwagoner you're disregarding all validity of a deck. THE DECK IS TOPPING. You refuse to see this. Same with Inzektors, Dark Worlds, Wind-ups, etc. Everyone said they were just a bandwagon and would die. Whether then or now, guess where those decks are now? The bandwagon is, usually, because a deck is a solid tier 2+. I've tested them, though only 2 times, and saw the potential. Granted, 2 times isn't enough of a testing time, but considering everyone else is trying them out at the same time? I don't even run the "bandwagon" decks most of the time. Verz, tried my hand at the neo-Fableds, and Gem-Knights when DT14 came out. I concern myself with mostly undermeta decks, but I either get in before the bandwagon or not at all, with some exceptions. And dueling, 1 on 1, has no real weight. If anything, it just makes you look like an idiot for suggesting it can prove anything. The irony of your post just now is that you mention REDRUM, but you're still spamming because you didn't mention it except to say I was wrong =/ OT: Atums gave it a boost that it needed to be good, and potentially see attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianGuy1137 Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 So defending my point is considered spamming now? Interesting. Again, please refer to the fact that the ban worthiness was originally referring to Atum. I also mentioned that REDMD is listing worthy, but it won't happen. I don't mean anyone any disrespect, but I just don't like supporting something orientated towards making Konami profit for the sake of profit without balancing the current game state. Sure, it doesn't make them bad decks. I never said they were. They're just not what I'm interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='AsianGuy1137' timestamp='1330639119' post='5850388']I don't mean anyone any disrespect, but I just don't like supporting something orientated towards making Konami profit for the sake of profit without balancing the current game state. [/quote][quote name='Ｍｕｇｅｎｄｒａｍｏｎ' timestamp='1330638412' post='5850359'] by the time the next list sees the light, the Structure Deck won't be in production anymore. [/quote]And neither will Galactic Overlord. The card is hammerworthy and there IS a high probability that Konami will lay it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 [quote name='AsianGuy1137' timestamp='1330639119' post='5850388'] So defending my point is considered spamming now? Interesting.[/quote] Well, it isn't defending your point that bothers him, it's rather the fact that defending your point leads the conversation topic in all kinds of whacky directions and he's just too proud to admit he was doing so as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogg-Saron Posted March 1, 2012 Report Share Posted March 1, 2012 I remember a time when people in the TCG didn't give a sh*t what was happening in OCG. OT: This card adds so much speed to ANY Dragon.dek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianGuy1137 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 [quote name='Ｍｕｇｅｎｄｒａｍｏｎ' timestamp='1330638412' post='5850359'] Well, taking into account the only reason for REDRUM being looked over for hitting [i]is[/i] because of this new hype archetype's consistent frame he is talking about, and saying Holy Marks are not consistent would mean that REDRUM isn't listworthy. Your argument said that it was though- and your reason for it couldn't possibly apply.[/quote] I was under the impression that Chaos Dragons were actually viable, but that's still just from experience which could be discounted from my lack thereof. IIRC, a few people mentioned that Hieroglyph (someone even said Chaos I think) were topping. I'm curious to see if anyone has any coverage over their performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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