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Humanity and Morality


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English class has been keeping me busy on studying about human behavior, Freudian theory, government philosophies, morality, and genocides, and I thus I made this thread. :/ What are humans to you? What is your perspective on the nature of these things? Are we naturally "evil" people? What do we consider that is "good", and "bad"?

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[quote name='Βyakuya Kuchiki' timestamp='1330569156' post='5848961']
human behavior[/quote]

It's impossible to know everything about one person, so of course you are going to have those random bursts of "stay out of my business". It's a deep psychological issue that has continued to elude me for years. Even your top notch psychiatrists still can't deduce the complexity of the human mind, even though they claim to understand it.

[quote]Freudian theory[/quote]

Considering that I haven't taken a philosophy course in over two years, my memory has begun to fade on what exactly the Freudian Theory is. My insight into this matter will not help you in this course.

[quote]government philosophies[/quote]

"I WANT TO BE DICTATOR HURR DURR" is basically your real form of government now.

[quote]morality[/quote]

Morals are codes that you set for yourself and that are unique to you. My morals may possibly be going to church every morning to talk to the sky for no reason. It may not necessarily be a good moral, but it is still one that I expect myself to uphold. That being said, I completely made that up and will use a better example next time that more caters to my situation.

[quote]and genocides[/quote]

Genocides and morals are related somehow? Euthanasia, if I recall, wasn't a moral.

[quote]What are humans to you?[/quote]

Humans are an intelligent race of people that deserve to thrive whenever and wherever they please. Humans should learn the values of life and always look within themselves for some form of purification, leading themselves to the right direction.

[quote]What is your perspective on the nature of these things?[/quote]

That, I cannot answer, because every mind works and thinks differently, no matter what we choose to believe. Some people might say that we are one unified race with the mind, but I find that to be an insult to our individual personalities.

[quote]Are we naturally "evil" people?[/quote]

Check the Good and Evil Thread. I'm sure people there would enlighten you with that they have to say. With that being said, in my mind, there aren't "evil" people, just people that make extremely bad choices that lead to eventual downfall.

[quote]What do we consider that is "good", and "bad"?
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If we look at something and cherish it, respect it, then that person must have done something good. If we look at something and we despise it, regret it, then that person must have done something bad. It's a universal thing, but it's also hard to identify at the same time, because everyone has hidden intentions, whether you know it or not.

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What do I think is "good" and "bad"?
I think people just use those words to make their situation seem better or worse. For example, people say abortion is bad because they are against it.
Something is good if it benefits me or someone I care about. Something is bad if it harms me or someone I care about. I guess that's how I look at it.

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[quote name='Clair' timestamp='1330572956' post='5849165']
giving somebody your fruit snacks is "good".
putting facepaint on somebody using a steak knife is "bad".

these are things we all can agree on.
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no, giving snacks in GENERAL is good

you don't know if the guy may be allergic to fruit snacks, Clair

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[quote name='Cronus' timestamp='1330650701' post='5850905']
If I want to cordially stab a girl, rape her, throw in closet while ripping out her intestines and putting it on video I WILL DO IT DAMNI-SHOT-

No srsly Morality is subject only to the opinions of Humanity. No mans morals are universal.
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they're all from a POV. What one man thinks is the right thing is insanity to another

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[quote name='Koloktos' timestamp='1330700124' post='5851865']
Humanity in general may be a plague upon the earth, but Humanity with no morals is a plague upon humanity and upon themselves.
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That's actually why a part of me DOES kind of believe what they had said about humanity in the 2007 film The Mist:

Humanity as a species is fundementally insane. You put more than 3 of us in the same room, we start thinking of ways to kill one another. It's exactly this reason that politics and religion had to be invented

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[quote name='ragnarok1945' timestamp='1330724632' post='5852411']
That's actually why a part of me DOES kind of believe what they had said about humanity in the 2007 film The Mist:

Humanity as a species is fundementally insane. You put more than 3 of us in the same room, we start thinking of ways to kill one another. It's exactly this reason that politics and religion had to be invented
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So wait. Either religion was an excuse to kill other people or because we are all fundementally insane then we created religion because we are insane? I don't get it.

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[quote name='Ieyasu Tokugawa' timestamp='1330576542' post='5849266']
Good and bad are subjective. It just happens that many people agree on some subjects.
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Everything is subjective.

[quote name='Cronus' timestamp='1330734840' post='5852751']
Oh my God he's serious.
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I like how you use the phrase "Oh my God" to express how mad you are about religion.

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Normally, if you're doing something bad, you'll feel a weird tug in your heart. When I feel it, I stop doing it.

I think this way - if you imagine yourself doing something someone else did, and you feel that tug, that's a bad thing to do. Otherwise, it's okay.

I almost never do things out of badwill. If I hurt someone's feelings, that's because I thought they deserved it.

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[quote name='~ P O L A R I S ~' timestamp='1330858820' post='5855742']
Everything is subjective.



I like how you use the phrase "Oh my God" to express how mad you are about religion.
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A saying that has become an undying habit of mine? I would say Oh my Science! But that sounds retarded.
It is a common saying that has become a cultural phenomenon, it holds no presence in religion except for the word itself.

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[quote name='Koloktos' timestamp='1330906902' post='5857119']
We really don't need to sound like FOX News here.

However, to get everything summarized, religion is one of the major contributions to morality. It set up rules that are still accepted by people today.
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that's true, but the fact is different religions are still being set today.

Don't forget, during the centuries that have passed, we had religions that have been changed and altered and what not.

And then there's also the religions that simply disappeared from the history books (maybe because it was too incredible or something).

But every now and then what can happen is you find someone who remembers such a forgotten religion and all that, and that's why he/she has a different set of morals

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