Welche the crab Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120117035402/yugioh/images/thumb/9/9f/WeightsZenmaisures-ORCS-EN-R-1E.jpg/300px-WeightsZenmaisures-ORCS-EN-R-1E.jpg[/img] Pic of Honeybee and Bat which are both lv1s so this card can't be used on them. UNLESS Honeybee used to be level 2 and they played this before publishing the cards which would be troll and would also mean Konami drew a card. Actually this makes a lot of sense. We can now see that Konami is just straight up bad and they run this. Since Konami is bad, of course they can't balance the format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Sucks. [/thread]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 more proof konami can't play their own game right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Welche' timestamp='1331410352' post='5864911'] Actually this makes a lot of sense. We can now see that Konami is just straight up bad and they run this. Since Konami is bad, of course they can't balance the format. [/quote] [quote name='Order-Sol' timestamp='1331410805' post='5864921'] more proof konami can't play their own game right. [/quote] >Implying Konami doesn't play test their cards before releasing >Implying Konami doesn't want to release broken money cards like DARK support, LS, GB, X-Sabers, LSS, Agents, Plants, Wind-Ups, Inzektors and Tour Guide >Implying Konami doesn't have any idea about rarity bumps like DAD, Glow-Up Bulb and Rabbit >Implying Konami can't profit anything from the broken cards they keep reproducing and forces customers to buy boxes for a higher change to pull the broken money card >Implying Konami doesn't make random filler cards just to fill up booster pack slots >Implying Konami gives a f*** about the people who aren't willing to contribute any money to the game And the card is bad, but the mind set of the playerbase that keeps thinking how Konami is bad at its own game is even worse. Konami knows damn well what they are doing, and they continue to milk the cashcow until its completely dry. [size=6][b]WILL YOU PEOPLE NOW FINALLY STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT IT AND STOP BEATING THE DEAD HORSE???[/b][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Konami knows so well what they're doing that people are quitting left and right and not many people can actually even afford to play irl because of retarded card costs. ... LOL WAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Greiga te Jalokia' timestamp='1331417597' post='5865040'] Konami knows so well what they're doing that people are quitting left and right and not many people can actually even afford to play irl because of retarded card costs. ... LOL WAT [/quote] By that logic, Magic the Gathering should already died, since the rotation system pretty much nullfies cards from the older sets, which then forces the player to spend more money on the newer set if they want to remain competitive or expand their collection. But guess what, people are still buying the products of that game. If enough people quitting causes Yu-Gi-Oh to die, Konami already made its profit from a 10+ years product and can simply cut of the production of the game, call it a day and move on their next money making plan. But the game won't die (yet), because veterans are still continuously going to spend money on Konami's products so they can keep up with a format that Konami itself creates and newer players always enter the scene as well. And do you seriously think this is the first time a mass amount of people quit this game? When Tele-DAD got completely murdered, alot of people stopped playing the game, because they didn't wanted to spend more money on the new sets just to remain competitive. People are constantly bitching that the banlist should focus about balancing the game, but in reality, the banlist just a pathetic excuse for a rotation system and people are crying how their "little special flower" deck got hit. And no, I don't want to hear your pathetic excuse how other card games are better because of some system, because it still require alot of your own cash to remain competitive, since card games ALWAYS have a method to make older sets invalid, thus forcing you to buy more cards from newer sets. People seriously need to stop to overthink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Master Hyperion' timestamp='1331419478' post='5865078'] By that logic, Magic the Gathering should already died, since the rotation system pretty much nullfies cards from the older sets, which then forces the player to spend more money on the newer set if they want to remain competitive or expand their collection. But guess what, people are still buying the products of that game. [b]This is a completely different scenario.[/b] If enough people quitting causes Yu-Gi-Oh to die, Konami already made its profit from a 10+ years product and can simply cut of the production of the game, call it a day and move on their next money making plan. [b]Understandable[/b] But the game won't die (yet), because veterans are still continuously going to spend money on Konami's products so they can keep up with a format that Konami itself creates and newer players always enter the scene as well. [b]And do what? Lose? Spend infinite money on packs? Only dream of playing decks they can't afford? The number of new people is slowly decreasing atm, mostly because the game loses popularity due to people starting to badmouth it.[/b] And do you seriously think this is the first time a mass amount of people quit this game? [b]No[/b] When Tele-DAD got completely murdered, [b]This was definitely 2+ years ago and is irrelevant. I'm talking about the present. And plus, Konami actually fixed that format unlike now when we're entering a year long format.[/b] People are constantly bitching that the banlist should focus about balancing the game, [b]It should[/b] but in reality, the banlist just a pathetic excuse for a rotation system [b]How?[/b] and people are crying how their "little special flower" deck got hit. [b]They're stupid[/b] And no, I don't want to hear your pathetic excuse how other card games are better because of some system, because it still require alot of your own cash to remain competitive, since card games ALWAYS have a method to make older sets invalid, thus forcing you to buy more cards from newer sets. [b]Except that YGO is actually fun. Only irl play, in Magic a deck costs 300$, in YGO 3 cards cost 300$. And it should be a steady flow, not "oh lol your 1k deck is suddenly like 100 bucks instead.[/b][b]"[/b] People seriously need to stop to overthink. [b]Or I can have you do that for me.[/b] [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 [quote="Greiga te Jalokia"] By that logic, Magic the Gathering should already died, since the rotation system pretty much nullfies cards from the older sets, which then forces the player to spend more money on the newer set if they want to remain competitive or expand their collection. But guess what, people are still buying the products of that game. [b]This is a completely different scenario.[/b] [/quote] No its not. The rotation system still forces to buy players new cards if they want to remain competitive and it gives the makers of the games an actually excuse to make newer sets. If systems likes these don't exist, 1 or 2 of the same decks from older sets continue to dominate and gives people less reason to buy newer packs. Konmai is basicly doing the same thing with their own system. [quote="Greiga te Jalokia"] But the game won't die (yet), because veterans are still continuously going to spend money on Konami's products so they can keep up with a format that Konami itself creates and newer players always enter the scene as well. [b]And do what? Lose? Spend infinite money on packs? Only dream of playing decks they can't afford?[/b][/quote] Konami cares less about their players base emotions or how players gets their hands on money cards, because the main source of all the cards still come from booster packs and structure decks, which is Konami's main profit. [quote="Greiga te Jalokia"] [b]The number of new people is slowly decreasing atm, mostly because the game loses popularity due to people starting to badmouth it.[/b][/quote] Yes, the popularity decrease of this is game definetly notable because older cards like Fiendish Chain and Maxx "C" have their prize tags suddenly jump through the roof because of the high demand on those cards on the overall rarity of the cards, which made those cards scarce, and people are still willing to pay for it so they can prepare themselves for the broken money cards that Konami keeps contributing to the game and people keep buying booster boxes. Yep, the game is definitely losing popularity because people complain about it. [quote="Greiga te Jalokia"] When Tele-DAD got completely murdered, [b]This was definitely 2+ years ago and is irrelevant. I'm talking about the present. And plus, Konami actually fixed that format unlike now when we're entering a year long format.[/b] [/quote] No. They never had the intention to balance the format and the Tele-DAD era is extremely relevant because; (see next comment) [quote="Greiga te Jalokia"] but in reality, the banlist just a pathetic excuse for a rotation system [b]How?[/b][/quote] [spoiler="tl:dr"] >a long Monarch format >Tele-DAD and Synchros get made >Everyone plays Tele-DAD and Synchros. >6 months later >Tele-DAD gets murdered by the banlist >Lightsworn, Gyzarus, Mezuki and PSZ get made >Everyone plays LS, GB or Zombies >6 months later >LS, GB and Zombies gets murdered by the banlist Dark Strike Fighter and Summoner Monk get made >Everyone plays Zombies (and Dark Strike Fighter OTK during the last 2 months(?)) >6 months later >Nobody wants to buy new products because DSF OTK is the best deck >Dark Strike Fighter OTK and Zombies gets murdered by the banlist >New blackwing monsters come out >Everyone plays Blackwings or Lightsworn >6 months later >Nobody wants to buy their new products because LS is a deck >LS gets murdered by the banlist >Frog, Infernity and X-Saber support comes out >Everyone plays Frogs >6 months later >Nobody wants to buy their new products because Frog, Infernity and X-Sabers are a deck >Frogs, Infernity and Rescue Cat get murdered by the banlist >Legendary Six Samurai comes out >Everyone plays LSS >12 months later >Nobody wants to buy their new products because LSS is a deck >LSS get murdered by the banlist >Agents and plant "support" come out >Everyone plays Agent and Plants >6 months later >Wind-Ups, Inzektors and Rescue Rabbit get made >A lot of people don't wants to buy Konami's new products or focus solely on their new mechanic (Xyz) because Synchros and Agents are a deck >Plants and Agents get murdered by the banlist >Everyone plays Xyz decks [/spoiler] Obviously I missed alot of other important stuff or have some formats wrong, but that's not the point. The point is that the "banlist" is just there to force older decks to leave the competitive scene and Konami continues to make new broken cards or re-release older broken cards like BLS-EotB. [quote="Greiga te Jalokia"] And no, I don't want to hear your pathetic excuse how other card games are better because of some system, because it still require alot of your own cash to remain competitive, since card games ALWAYS have a method to make older sets invalid, thus forcing you to buy more cards from newer sets. [b]Except that YGO is actually fun. Only irl play, in Magic a deck costs 300$, in YGO 3 cards cost 300$. And it should be a steady flow, not "oh lol your 1k deck is suddenly like 100 bucks instead.[/b][b]"[/b][/quote] So in other words, you don't want to keep up with the power creep that Konami knows its creating. That's not the game's problem, but your own problem, since you aren't willing to keep up with the format that Konami constantly creates and you refuse to spend any money on it. Oh, and you can complain at the secondary market for high prize tags, not Konami, since all they do is just contibute the broken money cards. They don't control the prize tags, except for the card rarity. Card games always leave their older cards behind or outclass them in order to sell new products and make more profit out of it. The reason I'm arguing about this is because I'm not seeing why Yu-Gi-Oh should be an exception to the "rotation" rule and a mass amount of people are only started complaining about it when the March 2012 was revealed. Oh, that's right. They're too busy drooling all over their plant and Agent decks because they don't want to contribute any more money to the game in order to let the game stay alive. If the playerbase actually give a single f*** about the shitty game state of the game and Konami's actions, they should actually stop buying the cards so Konami can't make a profit out of it anymore, which forces Konami to either A.) Completely change the state of the game or B.) stop contributing all together and cut of the lifeline of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Great reads Hyperion. Deserve a medal. The card itself is a mindgame, ALTHOUGH, I'd rather let my opponent summon a Rank 5 than Zenmaity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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