Nullamare Golem

[Blake]

[center][img]http://i43.tinypic.com/ohiays.jpg[/img][/center]

[center]2 Level 3 monsters
[b]Once per turn, during either player's turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; until the End Phase, each time an Xyz Monster(s) is Xyz Summoned, draw 1 card for each, even if this card leaves the field. While this card has an Xyz Material attached to it: This card cannot be destroyed by battle. You cannot Xyz Summon another Xyz Monster during the turn this card was Xyz Summoned.[/b][/center]

[center]Not sure on the wording, but I was trying to make it have a lingering effect even if it dies. Also hoped to make it not really an OTK machine while being more preventative towards OTKs.[/center]

[REvan342]

..." even when this card leaves the field.." does this also mean when it is removed from play?

[Blake]

[quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331573611' post='5867662']
..." even when this card leaves the field.." does this also mean when it is removed from play?
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... Yes. It means any way of leaving the field. Why would banishing be an exception? ._.

I mean, that’s always been leabing the field, as it isn’t on it anymore.

[REvan342]

Im not a fan of effects that are still active while banished.. its not wrong. its just my personal preferance.

That aside... it cant be destroyed on battle whilst, Xyz materials are attached, and an acceptable 2300 DEF , makes it a great guard for your life-points.

[Blake]

[quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331574549' post='5867675']
Im not a fan of effects that are still active while banished.. its not wrong. its just my personal preferance.

That aside... it cant be destroyed on battle whilst, Xyz materials are attached, and an acceptable 2300 DEF , makes it a great guard for your life-points.
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You're giving a prime example of why we need the Advanced clause =T

Don't just say "Card is good/bad/etc". Give me a practical use for it, a nerf, a buff, whatever. Right now this quoted post is just a +1 for your post count that doesn't really say anything.

You just stated the obvious, so can you, please, give more?

[REvan342]

post count dosent matter (grow up)

and as far as a use.... its pretty useless. and its broken anyways, because the Xyz material is only detached until the end phase, and it cant be destroyed when you have Xyz materials attached, making it too hard to destroy.

you wanted more... you got it buddy =)

[Kazooie]

[quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331575019' post='5867681']
post count dosent matter (grow up)

and as far as a use.... its pretty useless. and its broken anyways, because the Xyz material is only detached until the end phase, and it cant be destroyed when you have Xyz materials attached, making it too hard to destroy.

you wanted more... you got it buddy =)
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My god are you dense? If anything, this thing can be considered BROKEN.

Xyz Monsters are huge and this thing can single handedly RAPE Wind-ups. Second, there's a thing called EFFECT DESTRUCTION. Once someone sees this, they'll side in things like Chain Dissappearence and Smashing Ground. All in all, you're wrong. This thing is borderline broke, considering how easy it is to summon and how many +'s you'll get from it.

But, I still wouldn't do much to it otherwise you'll get something not worth running. As of now, it's not really enough to get hit, but it's certainly borderline and a staple at one.

[Blake]

[quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331575019' post='5867681']
post count dosent matter (grow up)

and as far as a use.... its pretty useless. and its broken anyways, because the Xyz material is only detached until the end phase, and it cant be destroyed when you have Xyz materials attached, making it too hard to destroy.

you wanted more... you got it buddy =)
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You were the one spamming, I don't care about post count ._.

So... It's useless [b]and[/b] broken? What?

The Xyz Material is permanently detached... Can you not read it?

First, tell me how it's useless?

Please, tell me how it's broken. Effect destruction is more common than battle destruction, so it'll only last a turn, most likely, so arguing "it can die by battle makes it broken" is really invalid.

And you still ignored the main effect =/

Now, c'mon, is constructive criticism this hard? If it's broken AND useless, how do I make it not broken and useless?

[REvan342]

[quote name='Kanade Otonashi' timestamp='1331575276' post='5867684']
My god are you dense? If anything, this thing can be considered BROKEN.

Xyz Monsters are huge and this thing can single handedly RAPE Wind-ups. Second, there's a thing called EFFECT DESTRUCTION. Once someone sees this, they'll side in things like Chain Dissappearence and Smashing Ground. All in all, you're wrong. This thing is borderline broke, considering how easy it is to summon and how many +'s you'll get from it.
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i see your point. But other than Wind-Ups, this THING, has no other niches (unless you run Shield and Sword). ( and no im not dense)

[Kazooie]

[quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331575479' post='5867692']
i see your point. But other than Wind-Ups, this THING, has no other niches (unless you run Shield and Sword). ( and no im not dense)
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...Tour Guide of the Underworld. Read that card.

Then, think about the meta game that you porbably don't even know. Dino Rabbit - Xyz Monsters, usually two per turn. Inzektors would kill this, but you just chain it's effect because it's Spell Speed Two so you draw because it doesn't have to be on the field. Then Wind-Ups which it rapes. This thing is basically a more vulnerable Maxx "C" - another card you probably don't know.

[REvan342]

[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1331575374' post='5867686']
You were the one spamming, I don't care about post count ._.

So... It's useless [b]and[/b] broken? What?

The Xyz Material is permanently detached... Can you not read it?

First, tell me how it's useless?

Please, tell me how it's broken. Effect destruction is more common than battle destruction, so it'll only last a turn, most likely, so arguing "it can die by battle makes it broken" is really invalid.

And you still ignored the main effect =/

Now, c'mon, is constructive criticism this hard? If it's broken AND useless, how do I make it not broken and useless?
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[b] "You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; until the End Phase" if its permanatly detached, make sure you add it on the card..... it throws less experienced yugioh nerds off. you cant assume we know what YOU mean by a wording. [/b]


[b]and to make it non-useless ... i suggest swapping the attack and defence, so that it can be a 2300 beat-stick, as it already cant be destroyed by battle(with an Xyz material attached)[/b]

[Kazooie]

[quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331575998' post='5867706']
[b]"You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; until the End Phase" if its permanatly detached, make sure you add it on the card..... it throws less experienced yugioh nerds off. you cant assume we know what YOU mean by a wording. [/b]


[b]and to make it non-useless ... i suggest swapping the attack and defence, so that it can be a 2300 beat-stick, as it already cant be destroyed by battle(with an Xyz material attached)[/b]
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...When a card is has : or ; it's a new part of the effect, that goes with the drawing effect. The card is worded fine. When detached, a card is assumed to not be reattached unless something says otherwise.

Also, no, the card would be absolutely broken like that.

[Blake]

[quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331575998' post='5867706']
[b]"You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; until the End Phase" if its permanatly detached, make sure you add it on the card..... it throws less experienced yugioh nerds off. you cant assume we know what YOU mean by a wording. [/b]


[b]and to make it non-useless ... i suggest swapping the attack and defence, so that it can be a 2300 beat-stick, as it already cant be destroyed by battle(with an Xyz material attached)[/b]
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... No, you should learn the game or stop posting. Last thing we need is another Ragnarok on our hands. Anyone with half a brain knows that ALL Xyz (Gem-Knight Pearl and Gaia Dragoon are exceptions cause no deatch) are worded like that. If you don't know that, you don't belong in this section.

It's not useless, if you knew anything about the game. Ever heard of T.G. Hyper Librarian? Maxx "C"? Would you like me to break it wide open?

It's not MEANT to OTK

[REvan342]

I know the game .. you cant expect everyone to know every card. you dont know EVERY card. so your first statement is invalid.

[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1331576266' post='5867709']
... No, you should learn the game or stop posting. Last thing we need is another Ragnarok on our hands. Anyone with half a brain knows that ALL Xyz (Gem-Knight Pearl and Gaia Dragoon are exceptions cause no deatch) are worded like that. If you don't know that, you don't belong in this section.

It's not useless, if you knew anything about the game. Ever heard of T.G. Hyper Librarian? Maxx "C"? Would you like me to break it wide open?

It's not MEANT to OTK
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and as far as Nullamare Golem..... [b]Once per turn, during either player's turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; until the End Phase, each time an Xyz Monster(s) is Xyz Summoned, draw 1 card for each, even if this card leaves the field. While this card has an Xyz Material attached to it: This card cannot be destroyed by battle. You cannot Xyz Summon another Xyz Monster during the turn this card was Xyz Summoned...... [/b]that wording is not OCG.... and not clear.

[Blake]

[quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331576738' post='5867712']
I know the game .. you cant expect everyone to know every card. you dont know EVERY card. so your first statement is invalid.



and as far as Nullamare Golem..... [b]Once per turn, during either player's turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; until the End Phase, each time an Xyz Monster(s) is Xyz Summoned, draw 1 card for each, even if this card leaves the field. While this card has an Xyz Material attached to it: This card cannot be destroyed by battle. You cannot Xyz Summon another Xyz Monster during the turn this card was Xyz Summoned...... [/b]that wording is not OCG.... and not clear.
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You don't know the game, or you'd know how xyz were worded.

That IS OCG, and it IS perfectly clear, you're just being anal.

You're still not adding anythign to the topic, so why are you still posting? You've given no truly constructive criticism, you just keep raising trivial points that you're wrogn about. That is correct OCG. Would you like to see the wording on Number 12: Crimson Shadow Armor Ninja?

The only thing I'm not sure on is "even if this card leaves the field", but I'm pretty sure if I removed that, it would still be a lingering effect, I just put it on there as a way to make it easier to understand, yet it still went over your head.

Post constructively or get out =/

[REvan342]

Well if its so damn perfect to you why post this crap?

[Kazooie]

[quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331577237' post='5867722']
Well if its so damn perfect to you why post this crap?
[/quote]

Oh look, he's butthurt.

He's looking for actual USEFUL advice, not the crap that you're spewing at him.

[Blake]

[quote name='REvan342' timestamp='1331577237' post='5867722']
Well if its so damn perfect to you why post this crap?
[/quote]
I never said it was perfect. I merely told you to post constructively, and you did... Once. The rest was off base or countered easily, and now you're posting completely off topic.

If your constructive comment was countered, you might stand to learn something instead of arguing like an idiot.

[Master of Sabers]

Good card is good. I must say, I love the artwork for your card. If you made it level four/two instead... Would that decrease the brokenness a little bit? That way Wind Ups can't abuse it as easily... Inzektors will have a harder time abusing it... Dino Rabbit... well, they would have to choose between this and the other things that are out there. Or, you could simply add a type restriction, like Laggia/Dolkka has.

[Blake]

[quote name='ScrapAttack' timestamp='1331578740' post='5867752']
Good card is good. I must say, I love the artwork for your card. If you made it level four/two instead... Would that decrease the brokenness a little bit? That way Wind Ups can't abuse it as easily... Inzektors will have a harder time abusing it... Dino Rabbit... well, they would have to choose between this and the other things that are out there. Or, you could simply add a type restriction, like Laggia/Dolkka has.
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... You read the retriciton, right? Why would they go into this when they can go into Zenmaines/Leviair/Zenmaity/etc? The only one that would use it well enough is Wind-ups, and it's made as a counter option, similar to Maxx "C". It also eats up a slot on the field that they desperately need, albeit to gain plusses.

With 2x Torrential, Dark Hole, potentially sided Chain Disappearance, etc. it's not going to live that long, and it would hold off a F/OTK from the deck that brings it out, out of the three you named, giving you another turn to find a way to counter them. Rabbit would rather Leviair, Inzektors would use it as a counter option but Zenmaines and such would be better overall, and wind-ups could use it, but it woudl require more set up time that allowss them draw into their hand traps and such.

... Making it type specific would make it worthless ._.

[Master of Sabers]

[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1331579423' post='5867762']
... You read the retriciton, right? Why would they go into this when they can go into Zenmaines/Leviair/Zenmaity/etc? The only one that would use it well enough is Wind-ups, and it's made as a counter option, similar to Maxx "C". It also eats up a slot on the field that they desperately need, albeit to gain plusses.

With 2x Torrential, Dark Hole, potentially sided Chain Disappearance, etc. it's not going to live that long, and it would hold off a F/OTK from the deck that brings it out, out of the three you named, giving you another turn to find a way to counter them. Rabbit would rather Leviair, Inzektors would use it as a counter option but Zenmaines and such would be better overall, and wind-ups could use it, but it woudl require more set up time that allowss them draw into their hand traps and such.

... Making it type specific would make it worthless ._.
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Ehh... yeah.... when I saw it, I couldn't see the ATK/DEF, so that's one thing I missed. Sorry about that. And I think I see what you mean with the 'better options' thing. You clearly thought this out better than I, so I take my hat off to you. *Good day sir.*

*walks out whistling cheery tune*