thekazu4u Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Then I can make a contract with dragons too. [img]http://yugico.com/customcard/38614.jpg[/img] [left]During your opponent's Standby Phase, Special Summon 1 Dragon-Type Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck. During your Standby Phase, tribute monster(s) whose combined levels are equal to the combined levels of all monster's Special Summoned by this card's effect. If a monster Special Summoned by this card's effect would be removed from the field: Switch control of all monsters Special Summoned by this card's effect instead.[/left] Yay for Special Summoning King Dragun & BEUD! Although 12 levels per turn seems like a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 It's bad design because cards like Double Cyclone exist and make this a a +0. It's the same basic idea as Mirage of Nightmare in brokeness. The cost needs to be more immediate or this is just too easy to use. Maybe during their End Phase, because at least it's a WALL then. It also punishes anything too large. Also, "when a card...would leave the field" is way too damn vague given tributing and such. Elaborate and make it work with actual game mechanics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted March 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3][quote] It's bad design because cards like Double Cyclone exist and make this a a +0. It's the same basic idea as Mirage of Nightmare in brokeness. The cost needs to be more immediate or this is just too easy to use. Maybe during their End Phase, because at least it's a WALL then. It also punishes anything too large. [/quote][/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Yea my bad. I should probably make the tributing and spec'ing happen at the same time.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Punishing things that are too large is supposed to be part of the whole point. Just saying.[/size][/font][/color] [color=#5A5A5A][font=tahoma, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]I don't think I should get rid of the "removed from the field" part. It is important for the flavor and mechanic of the card: You summon out Dragons with its effect, but bigger dragons have a bigger risk. If you summon out something too big, and don't have enough to tribute (you breach your contract) then you are forced to try to "tribute" a dragon which will just cause them to turn against you.[/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Temple Gaurdian Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 The problem is with having to tribute as a cost each turn is you can use REDMD and a high level dragon just to continually re-tribute it. True that cost goes up with more monsters but when you've got say Five Headed Dragon on the field what more do you want from this card? Also, working with the above strategy, it doesn't really impare the player much as you can still attack with the to-be tributed monster. Maybe have the tributes be banished instead, but that might be a little ott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Black Temple Gaurdian' timestamp='1332496704' post='5884939'] The problem is with having to tribute as a cost each turn is you can use REDMD and a high level dragon just to continually re-tribute it. True that cost goes up with more monsters but when you've got say Five Headed Dragon on the field what more do you want from this card? Also, working with the above strategy, it doesn't really impare the player much as you can still attack with the to-be tributed monster. Maybe have the tributes be banished instead, but that might be a little ott. [/quote] You do realize you can't summon a 5 headed with this card rite? And that the spec. is mandatory right? And that you can't spec. summon a monster spec'd by this effect with remd rite? Also, how exactly do you play to get 12 stars on the field over and over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Temple Gaurdian Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Okay so Five Headed Dragon was a bad example as a card to be summoned but the point stands. It'd be very easy to get BEUD, get another one out (future fusion, dragons mirror, etc) then just constantly tribute the BEUD this card didn't bring out only to special summon it back with REDMD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted March 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='Black Temple Gaurdian' timestamp='1332582260' post='5886092'] Okay so Five Headed Dragon was a bad example as a card to be summoned but the point stands. It'd be very easy to get BEUD, get another one out (future fusion, dragons mirror, etc) then just constantly tribute the BEUD this card didn't bring out only to special summon it back with REDMD. [/quote] IDK about you but personally if they managed to get this card, Remd, and future fusion without letting the opponent kill the fufu for 2 turns, then they sorta deserve to win. I mean, there are 3 card OTKs around. Plus [b] the special summoning is mandatory. [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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