Is it Possible to Escape the Friend Zone?

[Miror B]

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The quote you responded to doesn't say that there's no answer, but that there're different answers for different people.
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The way I took it is that he said the discussion is basically moot because there's no specific answer.

[Frunk]

In response to the OP, I wouldn't know, because I am not, have never been, and will never be, a White Knight. Honestly, women aren't looking for someone who offers more "care and support" than their previous, presumably much more attractive and much less lame, boyfriends. Women don't work like that. At least, not the ones that have standards high enough for a "Friend Zone" to exist. Either man up and become the "douchebag" type of guy she is attracted to, or start chasing chicks who are as geeky and desperate as you are.

[Vairocana]

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In response to the OP, I wouldn't know, because I am not, have never been, and will never be, a White Knight. Honestly, women aren't looking for someone who offers more "care and support" than their previous, presumably much more attractive and much less lame, boyfriends. Women don't work like that. At least, not the ones that have standards high enough for a "Friend Zone" to exist. Either man up and become the "douchebag" type of guy she is attracted to, or start chasing chicks who are as geeky and desperate as you are.
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>be a decent human being
>must be a white knight

[Flame Dragon]

Because I like Copy/Paste
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Keep hearing this "friendzone" word every damn where now. Not sure which gender to blame more for its idiotic commonplaceness, but I guess I'll lean slightly more to blaming the guys. Slightly. Still, it's horseshit. Stop using the goddamn word.

Girls: if you're not interested in a guy, don't lead him on so he'll listen to you/treat you like a princess. Build friendships like a decent human being, and be honest with people. Yeah, society tells you not to: fuck society. You're a person, he's a person.

Guys: If you don't like the girl for who she is and don't WANT to hang around her, don't complain about this "friendzoning" thing, because you're CLEARLY not her friend. If you find her hot but obnoxious and she's not obviously interested: grow a pair and move on. If you are her friend and like her for who she is, then you should respect her enough not to spend all your time thinking about why she won't fuck you. Go fuck someone else! XD You have a true friend, and regardless of gender: don't fuck that up. HOW IS THIS HARD? X_x

Yes, love stinks. But for fuck's sake, don't invent a word that blames the other gender for all your problems. =W=

I'm a motormouth, I know this. I talk endlessly about a whoooole ton of nonsense. But if someone's not interested in what I'm saying I will *stop,* because I care about and pay attention to the person I'm talking to, usually. If she ain't doin that, guys, she's either oblivious, using you, or very lonesome and you're all she's got. In the first case, iffy friendship material but not good date material. In the second case, BAD friend material and not good date material. In the third case, the friendship is up to your stamina/care for her but WHATEVER YOU DO DON'T DATE HER. In all three cases: she's not interested if she does that. Drop the friendzone whining. XD

Girls: I know from your perspective, you're just employing the "right" you have as a woman to get special treatment from the guys that seem to like you in return for all the mistreatment other guys have and will put ya through in the future. We don't know we're oing it consciously, but sometimes that bitterness creeps in and that's a lot of where that "I deserve to be pampered" thing comes from. Guess what? That's not a "right" you have. You assume certain bad things or good things should happen to you because you're female, you're just making things *worse.* To put into perspective what you're doing to guys by acting that way.
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That brought to you from twitter. Not sure how relevent it is, tbqh I really don't think it applies atm, but was like what the hell. No point in letting a rant like that go to waste right.

[The Amazing Avian]

Thanks for all the advice, as of late she got a whole bunch of s*** from several people and I'm really the only person on her side with this stuff. It's not exactly what I wanted to happen, but we've been getting a lot closer. And I've been thinking about what Daemon said. I don't know if I'm going about this the right way though. I kinda feel like I'm taking advantage of her because of the situation.

[Expelsword]

If you've loved her the whole time, you are not "taking advantage" of anything.
I'm in a similar spot, so my heart goes out to you.

[Dwarven King]

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Thanks for all the advice, as of late she got a whole bunch of s*** from several people and I'm really the only person on her side with this stuff. It's not exactly what I wanted to happen, but we've been getting a lot closer. And I've been thinking about what Daemon said. I don't know if I'm going about this the right way though. I kinda feel like I'm taking advantage of her because of the situation.
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All you can do is be patient and honest. Not sure what else I can tell you.