Althemia Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 信仰' timestamp='1333909196' post='5906458'] How is Caius not screwed by Inzektor Hornet? And how is Pudding still destroyed if the monster no longer exists to destroy it? [/quote] Because Pudding goes after damage, herp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 信仰' timestamp='1333909196' post='5906458'] How is Caius not screwed by Inzektor Hornet? And how is Pudding still destroyed if the monster no longer exists to destroy it? [/quote] 1. Rather Caius screws Inzektors more than Puddingcess screws Inzektors. Because frankly, one of them banishes and the other doesn't. 2. Because after damage calculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Well then it is pretty worthless. Nevermind. However, if Hornet is on the board and you have a chance to summon Caius, it's probably too late to stop them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 信仰' timestamp='1333909542' post='5906464'] Well then it is pretty worthless. Nevermind. However, if Hornet is on the board and you have a chance to summon Caius, it's probably too late to stop them anyway. [/quote] Yes, but Treeborn Frog exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 If puddingcess happens after damage calculation I will stop playing Madolce, simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Guys, it would be broken if it activated before the damage step. If it did, you could kill the other monster, cause a replay, and have a Raigeki... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [quote name='Pacmanexus' timestamp='1333910968' post='5906506'] Guys, it would be broken if it activated before the damage step. If it did, you could kill the other monster, cause a replay, and have a Raigeki... [/quote] See: Catastor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [quote name='Greiga te Jalokia' timestamp='1333914692' post='5906606'] See: Catastor [/quote] *tried to use this logic with Gem-Knight Citrine* *failed horribly* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [quote name='Tsukasa Hiiragi' timestamp='1333914787' post='5906612'] *tried to use this logic with Gem-Knight Citrine* *failed horribly* [/quote] What? Idgi. Citrine says "attack or attacked", this says "battle". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [quote name='Greiga te Jalokia' timestamp='1333914692' post='5906606'] See: Catastor [/quote] Except Catastor activates during the Damage Step, not before =/ Stop looking at the translation it was given. While yes, this is all that the Japanese card says, in English it does not explain itself too well based on what we understand as to "When a card battles". The only thing that matters is its original Japanese text matching that exactly in regards to D. D. Warrior Lady. That alone is enough judgment to say its ruled just like D. D. Warrior Lady, at least for the time being. Understand that "When a card battles" is a HUGE time period starting with Attack Declaration all the way to the End of the Damage Step. There are many effects in english in regards to "When a card battles" but it always specifically says WHEN it would activate, such as "before Damage Caclulation" or "At the end of the Damage Step". The "translation" of Madolce Puddincess did not explain that, so it in itself is not enough information to say "it works like Galaxy Eyes or Catastor". Give up your hopes on it activating in the Battle Step or Before Damage Calculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 tl;dr don't use this card until it comes to TCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [quote name='Greiga te Jalokia' timestamp='1333917918' post='5906683'] tl;dr don't use this card until it comes to TCG. [/quote] When I said "don't get your hopes up", i meant it'll never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1333918246' post='5906688'] When I said "don't get your hopes up", i meant it'll never happen. [/quote] This is when we bet on the stupidity of TCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [quote name='Greiga te Jalokia' timestamp='1333919030' post='5906697'] This is when we bet on the stupidity of TCG. [/quote] I suppose you have a point there. We'll have another "misruling" to make Madolces seem more awesome for a format or two with Princesses being over $100 before it gets fixed or something =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 [quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1333919380' post='5906705'] I suppose you have a point there. We'll have another "misruling" to make Madolces seem more awesome for a format or two with Princesses being over $100 before it gets fixed or something =/ [/quote] There's also the fact that they blatantly mistranslated Dragon Asterisk even though we proved it could be normal or special summoned by any means iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 If this gets a screwed up ruling, I'm going to be furious. And we all know who will to be to blame...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 People think this would be good as it is, which is surprising enough. Madolce are piss-weak, and will always be/will be until they get good support. For now, they're rubbish and this isn't even remotely good, it's a weaker version of D.D. Warrior Lady that happens to get Madolce support, which isn't even a strong archetype as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1333992897' post='5907639'] People think this would be good as it is, which is surprising enough. Madolce are piss-weak, and will always be/will be until they get good support. For now, they're rubbish and this isn't even remotely good, it's a weaker version of D.D. Warrior Lady that happens to get Madolce support, which isn't even a strong archetype as it is. [/quote] Pretty much this really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderVolt Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Shriek still says that it's effect activates after damage calculation. and i trust Shriek over any other source pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseSymphony Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 All Madolces need is a monster/spell that allows for another Normal Summon when it's Normal Summoned/activated. Then they'll start to pick up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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