.Rai Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 [quote name='DJVD' timestamp='1335126512' post='5922643'] I can't tell if you're saying that to accuse me of trolling when I actually haven't been all day, or because you can't come up with why Tardy Orc is fast... WHEN IT ISN'T. [/quote] No, because you just compared Tardy Orc to Black Luster Soldier. When I say compare, I mean a damn sensible comparison. Like Giant Orc, Rai-Oh, Doomcaliber, Goblin Attack Force, whatever. Just not these f***ing massive boss monsters have nothing to do with anything. Edit: [b]Where the f*** in this thread did I say that this card was fast?[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1335126799' post='5922647'] No, because you just compared Tardy Orc to Black Luster Soldier. When I say compare, I mean a damn sensible comparison. Like Giant Orc, Rai-Oh, Doomcaliber, Goblin Attack Force, whatever. Just not these f***ing massive boss monsters have nothing to do with anything. [/quote] I compare every card to everything. You should know that by now. You still haven't explained why you think Tardy is fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 [quote name='DJVD' timestamp='1335126938' post='5922648'] I compare every card to everything. You should know that by now. You still haven't explained why you think Tardy is fast. [/quote] Quickly edited this in. Edit: Where the f*** in this thread did I say that this card was fast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1335127089' post='5922650'] Quickly edited this in. Edit: Where the f*** in this thread did I say that this card was fast? [/quote] [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1335106050' post='5922110'] Darling, it doesn't suck. This is strictly better than 2000+ Level 4 drawback attackers. Mainly because this is actually the quickest of them all. [/quote] Sooooo......... By the way, Dark Elf requires 1000, but it can attack first turn. Chainsaw has 2400, but gives your opponent a draw. How's that for legit comparison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 [quote name='DJVD' timestamp='1335127506' post='5922657'] Sooo...... [/quote] I also said fast is a subjective word. And, for instance, me saying that it's quicker than Goblin Attack Force isn't much really. I certainly never compared it to Black Luster Soldier. [quote]I compare every card to everything. You should know that by now.[/quote] Okay, so you compare everything to everything. So this entire debate is your fault, I guess? Not to mention, why should I know that again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1335127796' post='5922664'] I also said fast is a subjective word. And, for instance, me saying that it's quicker than Goblin Attack Force isn't much really. I certainly never compared it to Black Luster Soldier. Okay, so you compare everything to everything. So this entire debate is your fault, I guess? [/quote] Look at the edit in my previous post for a legit comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 [quote name='DJVD' timestamp='1335128029' post='5922668'] Look at the edit in my previous post for a legit comparison. [/quote] Verging on late there. Dark Elf doesn't have Solidarity compatibility with Doomcaliber and Caius and stuff. Draws for your opponent are bad. Only decent card that can considered within this range other than this is Giant Orc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanPark24 Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Konami strikes again! First, they had to make this piece of crap card, and then they stick it as a Secret Rare? That's just cruel. I really can see no use for this card, and it doesn't even work with Skill Drain! Tardy Orc, according to the Wikia, has a Conditional Effect. Skill Drain doesn't negate Conditional Effects, so that option is out of the question. Even if it did work like that, I would still run Barbaros over this. Bad card, Konami. Bad card. What's next? "Tour Admission Fee"? I can see that. It'll probably be "Pay half your Life Points," or some other crap like that. ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1335128275' post='5922674'] Verging on late there. Dark Elf doesn't have Solidarity compatibility with Doomcaliber and Caius and stuff. Draws for your opponent are bad. Only decent card that can considered within this range other than this is Giant Orc. [/quote] Doesn't matter. Giant Orc, Goblin Attack Force, other cards with the same effects as these, are better than Tardy, because they are actually a bit faster than Tardy. Everyone else is saying it's a bad card. Why can't you see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 *Sees the arguments about it not being not able to attack on summoned turn making it bad* Tardy Orc can be used with Deck Devastation Virus just like Giant Orc. Now, you have 6 good targets, and with 0 DEF like Giant Orc, this can also be recycled with Recurring Nightmare, which makes this even better. This is why it's good. Not great, but still good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 CARD ISN'T BROKE IT SUCKS YOU SUCK I DON'T WANT TO LIVE ON THIS PLANET ANYMORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Rai thinks he is one of those people like Yusei, who thinks that there is a legitimate reason behind why every card is good in existence (except Frog the Jam). So stop trying to impersonate Yusei, Rai. That being said, I will reiterate my previous statement with the fact that the meta in question right now is generally not geared towards this card. It can be used in fun, casual decks, but in competitive play, it is not so good. Ergo, it's good in a casual sense, but not so much in a competitive sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 [quote name='Devil's Advocate' timestamp='1335138953' post='5922849'] Rai thinks he is one of those people like Yusei, who thinks that there is a legitimate reason behind why every card is good in existence (except Frog the Jam). So stop trying to impersonate Yusei, Rai. That being said, I will reiterate my previous statement with the fact that the meta in question right now is generally not geared towards this card. It can be used in fun, casual decks, but in competitive play, it is not so good. Ergo, it's good in a casual sense, but not so much in a competitive sense. [/quote] ;_; I can follow my dreams and be Yusei. I still think it genuinely gives a reason for Fiend Solidarity to exist though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAreYou? Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Oh I'd use it for DDV, but Tardy itself is still slow.[quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1335139287' post='5922856'] I can follow my dreams and be Yusei. [/quote] YUGI IS THE KING OF GAMES! BE HIM, NOT YUSEI! OT: I already said enough. Don't need to go further on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Doodle Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I like the idea of solid fiend...you can use this, (maybe) giant orc, doomcaliber, tour guide and rabbit along with normal fiend beatsticks. then you can play the Djins in your extra so it doesnt mess up your Solidarity. Also DDV or DW gates might work (not sure though, it wont get pluses as it does in DWs but you could dump dead fiends to fuel Solid on first turn and such). Doesnt sound the most competitive deck but may be fun as casual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 [quote]Now, you have 6 good targets[/quote] Giant Orc + Goblin Elite Attack Force was already 6 good targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1335197690' post='5923360'] Giant Orc + Goblin Elite Attack Force was already 6 good targets. [/quote] Elite Force is EARTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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