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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckf9rHtn7Ag[/media]

Discuss "The Machine" the United States of America and what you feel about this Super Organism.
The Super Organism is a giant collection made up by components and regardless of what most of the little components want the Super Organism does what "It" wants because it is in it's own power.

Discuss what you think about the Super Organism. According to the video do you agree with any of the following:
*The President has almost no power in reality.
*The United States is a machine and the President is just a cog that keeps it going.
*The United States is a Super Organism that refuses the collective input of its components.

If you disagree then why?

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[quote name='Fire and Water' timestamp='1335683207' post='5928171']
I hope CISPA passes solely because the a****** in the vid opposes it.
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Do you even know what CISPA is? You do know it is no diferent than PIPA or SOPA just without fully attacking corporations. Just because someone is a little rude in their speech does not mean what they are saying is not true.

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http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/282040-cispa/

Don't see the difference, and The Amazing Atheist doesn't deserve his own thread.

[b]Edit:[/b] Unlocked due to not being a CISPA thread, but a thread on the "Super Organism" that is America. If you want to discuss CISPA take it to the linked thread.

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[quote name='Comrade Trollestia' timestamp='1335724401' post='5928584']
America kinda sucks.

Our polarized politics and two-party system is killing us.
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True, however it appears our generation refuses to do anything about it. Occupy Wall Street was an example of actually showing the government we won't take any more sh*t, but over the last ten years that has been the only thing we have really done to prove ourselves.

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Republicans: Can't let Democrats do anything. At all. Ever. Or do anything ourselves. Because that's what true patriots do.

Democrats: We're so much smarter than Republicans and anything remotely compromising is extremist nonsense.

[quote name='Cronus' timestamp='1335724762' post='5928590']
True, however it appears our generation refuses to do anything about it. Occupy Wall Street was an example of actually showing the government we won't take any more sh*t, but over the last ten years that has been the only thing we have really done to prove ourselves.
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And Occupy Wall Street has been painted as some socialist/communist agenda by Republicans.

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[quote name='Comrade Trollestia' timestamp='1335725313' post='5928600']
Republicans: Can't let Democrats do anything. At all. Ever. Or do anything ourselves. Because that's what true patriots do.

Democrats: We're so much smarter than Republicans and anything remotely compromising is extremist nonsense.



And Occupy Wall Street has been painted as some socialist/communist agenda by Republicans.
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The funny thing is is that they are using communism as a negative argument when they don't understand or probably know what Communism or Socialism truly is. Both concepts are fairly good except that communism tends to mess up.

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[quote name='Cronus' timestamp='1335725418' post='5928601']
The funny thing is is that they are using communism as a negative argument when they don't understand or probably know what Communism or Socialism truly is. Both concepts are fairly good except that communism tends to mess up.
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Yes I heard in the USA's Government says that Canada's Socialism is evil.

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[quote name='Cronus' timestamp='1335725418' post='5928601']
The funny thing is is that they are using communism as a negative argument when they don't understand or probably know what Communism or Socialism truly is. Both concepts are fairly good except that communism tends to mess up.
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We're not smart enough nor kind enough to pull of either. Our government is too incompetent. But other than yet, you are right. Neither is inherently evil.

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I misread this as 'Super Orgasm', which on reflection would have been better.
As an English citizen, I can't really comment on America's political motivations; but I was always under the impression that England was just an inferior version of America, which tells you a lot...

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[quote name='Cronus' timestamp='1335711472' post='5928319']
Do you even know what CISPA is? You do know it is no diferent than PIPA or SOPA just without fully attacking corporations. Just because someone is a little rude in their speech does not mean what they are saying is not true.
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And I had no qualms with SOPA and PIPA either. If I had my way there'd be no internet at all and these bills are a step in the right direction.

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[quote name='Zeal Ascendant' timestamp='1335732083' post='5928707']
Once I hit 22, I am OUT of this hellhole of a country...
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Hellhole is an exaggeration. As f***ed up as we are, it's not that bad to live here. We're 1st world in every sense of the word.

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[quote name='Comrade Trollestia' timestamp='1335757451' post='5929103']
Hellhole is an exaggeration. As f***ed up as we are, it's not that bad to live here. We're 1st world in every sense of the word.
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Well, I guess it really depends where the country is by that time.

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