Quadruple murders, the culprit is my best friend - I BEG YOU ALL TO READ THIS

[Merci]

Dear YCM,

Lives are at stake here.

This is the most serious topic that you will ever read, EVER, in your life. It is serious, not trolling. And I beg of you to read it all. Please.

Here’s the full story;
“Well, first off this is Indonesia - my best friend and I are sort of polar opposites. I'm like the sun, she's like the moon. She goes out, gets screwed, and has fun in parties and bars and places like that, while I just stay at home, play video games and read books and stuff...

The only thing the two of us have in common is [i]intelligence[/i], we're both smart.

Last year, she committed three murders, but all three of them were in self-defense, which was why I tolerated it. I found this out while reading her diary, and she confirmed it.

She's also ruined the lives of many people, making all their friends hate them and things like that, but those were all because they had done something terrible to her. Sort of like revenge. And she's very well capable of manipulating people, which was how our first two weeks started off.

[b]AND YET EARLIER, yesterday, she did another one.[/b] [i]But unlike the first three, this one was purely out of pleasure for the kill. The victim could have been an [b]innocent person,[/i][/b] and her only excuse is that 'secretly all people who don't deserve to die want to die'.

You can accuse me all you want for not sending her to jail sooner, but she's my frikin’ best friend. You’re not supposed to betray your friends!

Still, when she's taking lives for nothing more than pleasure, [i]she's become a threat to others.[/i] She's the daughter of a rich yet abusive father, and well...she's really good at ruining other people's lives. I have photos of her diary and chat history to prove it, but I fear the murders may have been too discreet to be noticed and reported.

The only problem is...well, the police of Indonesia are sort of incompetent. And I'm worried they won't fully understand what I'm trying to say to them. Also, I'm worried that my best friend (who trusts me) will leave jail (four murders is enough for a life sentence....right?!), in which case I will definitely be a target for her. And I'm also worried that her other friends (ones who definitely do NOT get along well with nerds like me...) will also find me responsible and...do something....

And they're fully capable of it.

Please take all these words seriously. If you think I'm a troll, at least PRETEND I'm not, alright??!!

Now that you have a full grasp on the situation...my question is this: what do I do? How do I bring such a dangerous threat to people, my best friend, to justice without her being able to slip away or frame me or whatever....?

Because this is [i]serious,[/i] and more lives are at stake.”


I posted this on Yahoo Answers as well, but the people there are…not answering goodly, and I want a proper, clear, constructive, and smart answer that can help me with all this.

Once she finds out I’ve been asking for help, searching for ways to put her into jail – unless she’s [i]already[/i] behind bars with a life sentence, it’s all over for me.

However, I can’t risk being put into jail myself, for cooperating with a murderer (which I didn’t). Also, if it’s brought to court and I lose, then it’s all over for me. Not to mention her father’s frikin’ rich! What if he pays her bail despite the accused quadruple murders?! IT’S ALL OVER FOR ME.

You guys are THE smartest group of people I know. Some of you are trolls, some of you are children, but you are ALL smart and intelligence. I trust you guys on that. I call upon all your intelligence, and I hope you can give me a good answer.

If I don’t do anything about it, others will be targeted. If I [i]do[/i] do something about it, if I don’t go about it smart, then I WILL BE THE TARGET.

Right now, she trusts me and disregards me. She's a master at hiding deaths, and she even plotted to kill her own (abusive) father. But when she kills innocents, that's when it goes too far. Even for me.

I must stop my best friend.

I tried words, they aren’t working.

This is Indonesia, the police and system are sort of incompetent.

Guys. Help me.

What do I do?

[DARKPLANT RISING]

...I feel really bad for you. To be honest, I can't really give you any advice on these sorts of matters 'cause I've never had that sort of thing before, but.

Most of the stuff about real life you say are really stressful (girlfriend being raped and such). I've never visited Indonesia, but is it that terrible a place?

[Merci]

No. Usually it's pretty good, day-to-day. But that's only the cover, I guess ._. it's corrupt.

[Fusion X. Denver]

Wow.
That [i]sucks[/i].

Isn't it possible to mail the photographed evidence and a name/address (the girl's, not yours) to the police? Although there's a chance they wouldn't buy it, but maybe you could include a heartfelt letter (maybe typed) similar to the OP and see what happens?
If not, maybe see your school's guidance counselor. It'd be harder to track you through someone anyone could have seen rather than your parents.

Or if none of that works and there are ways for her to find out, then dude, sh*t's gonna happen either way.
If I were in your position...I think I would turn her in. Since she has a tendency to ruin people's lives, I wouldn't be surprised if she tried shifting blame to other people if she was caught, like you, since you had knowledge these incidents occurred.
And honestly, if she took more lives, I wouldn't be able to forgive myself because I would feel that I could have saved them if only I took action.

But this is easy for me to say because I'm [i]not[/i] in your position. I would like to think being heroic and upholding justice would be the right thing to do, but who knows what would happen if I knew a real sense of danger like you seem to be feeling.

Before you take action, I suggest going to someone trustworthy for help. Your parents, a guidance counselor, your local psychologist, anyone. This sh*t isn't something that a kid like you should be handling; let yourself accept adult help for an adult situation. Assuming whomever you go to are good people, they'll do their best to protect you.

[Yasu]

If I suspect somebody might attempt to murder me, I don't think of them as a friend.
You shouldn't consider her as a one either, the way you described her makes me think she's a very mentally ill woman. She's unstable and dangerous, reason won't reach such a deluded person, it's not worth the risk.

Now, [b]do you have family? You should start by telling them, they are the only ones you can trust in a situation like this.[/b]
Get them involved, they probably have more life experience and knowledge of how the system works than you.

[CMRenji]

God.. this is a horrible situation to be in.

Waiting might not be a good idea, since she could kill again. If I were you, I would report her to the most competent authority figure possible.

If it all doesn't work out, you very well could be a target. But others could also die if you do nothing.

[Merci]

Ugh, posted something long but I guess it didn't make it through >.>

Anyway,
@Fusion - thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Even so, staying anonymous is sort of pointless since I'm the only one who knows about the murders. She'll know without a doubt it was me.

@Yasu - I wanted to keep my parents out of this, but after a discussion with Yuzuru and his bro, I guess there isn't much choice is there? After all, parent's lecture -> psycho murderer.

@Renji - noted. But I'm sort of selfish with my life- no. Others are more important.

[.Rai]

She may be your friend, but always put other people's safety over friendship. Tough, but true.

If the police genuinely can't help, school, parents, and generally adults you can trust are your greatest help here.

But turn her in. Frankly, being safe for a number of years is better than being friends with a murderer. And there are more ways to keep you safe than ways to stop murders without getting police fully involved.

[Merci]

She values all her friends, me included, and she'll only a danger to me when she finds out I betrayed her - which will be the moment police come to handcuff her and take her to jail. Right now, she and I are still friendly with each other. It kinda makes me appear as a manipulative bastard since I'm gonna backstab her...but it's better than leaving her to go on her killing spree merrily.

Well, it's still summer vacation so I won't be able to involve my school. Right now currently waiting for my mother to come home from work so I can report it all.

[quote]
....being safe for a number of years....
[/quote]

Frankly, I'm selfish with my life. I don't want to die. I -as one of her best friends- know all too well that if she's given an internet connection or just one hour of freedom after being reported, she [i]will [/i]destroy me the best she can. She's inhuman. I'm not going to underestimate her, she has plenty of time to plan. I'm not sure if she's capable of escaping jail, but I wouldn't be surprised if she did...

.....granted, if she's allowed visits, then she would probably tell her friends it was me and then I'm STILL doomed...but I'll find a way out of that somehow ._.

I've seen what she can do to other people, though she doesn't give me all the details. I'm just trying to search for the solution that can save me from her wrath, something I had never been worried off up until I made this decision.

If this is 'her' we're talking about, no I am[i] not[/i] safe.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

I thought for some time. Answer's came out.

Most of the time, when you're distressed between two options, you're missing something big. A third option that can solve it best.

It's doing nothing. Yes, it sounds like the worst option, but I think it's the only way. If you try saving her, you could get into some serious trouble, and besides, she'd be probably sent to jail anyways. If you send her out to the police, she'd think you betrayed her. So far you've done nothing, and I think keeping it so is the best way. If your friend really loves you, she wouldn't hate you just 'cause you didn't try to save her for something terrible she did. In fact, if she's lucky, she might be able to go safe on her own. If she doesn't...it's her fault anyways.

Crimes aren't stuff normal people can interfere with. You should do nothing and see what happens. All's up to God.

...Well, I don't believe in God, but you get what I mean. Hope I helped.

[Merci]

Darkplant, a casual enough answer, and in a way it does seem to be the best solution...for me.

She can easily turn on her friend as she can an enemy, she's stated that to me herself sometimes. I'm certain she'll hate me if I betray her despite her opening up and putting her full trust (more or less) into me.

And I'm selfish about my own life, but I also want to save others' lives. I want to be responsible for other people successfully getting to old age and having grandchildren, not for the deaths of innocent people who still haven't fully lived out their lives. I don't want others to die for my mistakes

Also, I'm not sure if she could ever change.

[Scrooge]

There is something I would like that you clear out for me. You state, basicly, that she has murdered 4 people and eluded arrest.

How is that? Do you blame the incompetent police? Is she intelligent enough to avoid being tracked down?

[Merci]

[quote]
Is she intelligent enough to avoid being tracked down?
[/quote]

Something like this. Last Friday night (Indo time), she hung around in a secluded area and [i]ambushed[/i] an innocent man before murdering him. Therefore, it's really hard to find evidence. The first three were probably similar, except they're the ones who assaulted her - and she killed them in self-defense.

It IS sort of because the police are incompetent because they're bad at collecting evidence and don't do their jobs all too well, but I would also blame it on the secludedness of the place and thus anonymity of the killer.



Told my mother. Since the girl murderer is underage, according to my mother, she would be protected and then trained, given special education and stuff...but that's unacceptable. I did just tell you guys afterall that given so much as a slight chance, she WILL ruin my life.

I showed her the diary photos but she [i][b]didn't believe them [/b][/i]and said they were [i][b]too much like a story.[/b][/i] Also [i]children have 'active imaginations'[/i]. Bullshit. While that's true, hello, she's fifteen coming onto sixteen, that's mature enough for me.
I'm hoping to show her the phone chat history, but right now she's too busy with work to help me...ugh...she said I'll have to show it tomorrow.

[Catterjune]

*knows about murder*

"Better post on YCM"

Are you literally retarded? Go to the police.

[Merci]

[quote]

Are you literally retarded? Go to the police.
[/quote]

Read the goddamned whole thread before you post. I'm sorry for swearing, but my life is at risk here. I need to take the best option.

Don't call me literally retarded if you haven't bothered to read anything.

[Hydra of Ages]

The police accept anonymous tip-offs. No matter [i]how [/i]incompetent a police department will be, if there have been murder cases, they will take every bit of information related to that seriously. Find out what your station's tip-line is and tell them. Now. Not at any point in the future- if everything is as you say, it's vastly important you convey this to the authorities as quickly as possible. If you think your life will be in danger from it, they have options for that too- believe me, this isn't a situation that's only happened once before. There [i]are[/i] options you have.

And yes, four murders is more than enough for a life sentence. [i]One[/i] murder is usually enough for a full sentence. If this is truly a murder case of the first degree, chances are they'll try her as an adult rather than a minor anyway.

[Enma Ai]

This might sound bad, but your mother might be right. People do crazy things for attention sometimes, she might be lying about it all (unless you've actually seen proof of the murders). Since she's only 15, turning her in would not do much at all. If I was in your situation, personally I wouldn't want to be friends with someone who had actually done those things, so I would slowly just break all ties I had to her. Start seeing her less and less until you are eventually out of each others lives; if that's possible.

But hey, It's your life, asking other people for this kind of advice wont yield you a lot of good answers.

--edit--

@Hydra; police in different countries are extremely different to police in europe and the US. For example, in Brazil the police would let civilians burn a person alive for stealing from a store. And when money comes into the picture, you can get away with anything.

[Scrooge]

You can go to the police. Ask about the posibilities and the actions that be taken. I'd advice you however, to do nothing that would put your name in show, not yet.

[Kakashi Hatake]

Okay, I've got to say that this sounds way too much like something straight out of some pulp-fiction. First of all, you haven't given us anything that would support this story being true. if something like this happened, then there would be at least something about it in a newspaper or something, and don't give me "It's in Indonesia and the police are incompetent." or some load of crock like that. Second, how old could this person possibly be? If she's underage, I doubt that she's really smart enough for this. Also, someone who would kill just for the pleasure would be a sociopath, so I doubt she would be your friend. Other than that, just the obvious sense that this was written to seem way too... story-like. Take for instance, these parts:

[quote][b]"AND YET EARLIER, yesterday, she did another one.[/b] [i]But unlike the first three, this one was purely out of pleasure for the kill. The victim could have been an [b]innocent person,[/b][/i] and her only excuse is that 'secretly all people who don't deserve to die want to die'."[/quote]

Making it bold just makes it seem way too forced.


[quote]Once she finds out I’ve been asking for help, searching for ways to put her into jail – unless she’s [i]already[/i] behind bars with a life sentence, it’s all over for me.

However, I can’t risk being put into jail myself, for cooperating with a murderer (which I didn’t). Also, if it’s brought to court and I lose, then it’s all over for me. Not to mention her father’s frikin’ rich! What if he pays her bail despite the accused quadruple murders?! IT’S ALL OVER FOR ME.[/quote]

Seriously? If you were really this scared, you wouldn't come onto a children's card game website to tell everyone about it. Plus, you're kinda killing it when you put things in all caps like that and over-compensate with punctuation.


[b]Look, if any of this was real then from what you've said, there's nothing you can do.[/b]

[Merci]

[quote]
---they will take every bit of information related to that seriously.
[/quote]

...I'm not so sure, but I hope that's true.

[quote='Dark Rose']
This might sound bad, but your mother might be right. People do crazy things for attention sometimes. Since she's only 15, turning her in would not do much at all. If I was in your situation, personally I wouldn't want to be friends with someone who had actually done those things, so I would slowly just break all ties I had to her. Start seeing her less and less until you are eventually out of each others lives; if that's possible.
[/quote]

Good advice, and thanks for understanding, but that's not the problem. I can [i]easily [/i]avoid her with my life intact.

But what about the [i][b]others[/b][/i] she will murder? How can I save them? I refuse to sit down quietly while I have the power to bring a murderer to justice and save lives...

[This Account is Unplayable]

cbf to read the thread, so...

Can't you just tell the police and ask for anonymity?

And since I'd assume it's America, any number of murders is a full life sentence.

[Doc.]

Cooperating with murder? Well, you did not do anything to help the murder to be carried out, but its Indonesia, they wont bloody listen.

I think that 1 murder is enough for a life sentence, but because Indonesia's Police Force are about as incompetent Englands, I think she MIGHT target you.

Tell the police, if it is the right thing to do, do it. Get her locked up before she does something crazy. Manipulative, Murderer, I wonder what these qualities make (Serial Killer). So before any more innocent lives are taken, get locked up.

To ammend the words of Optimus Prime.
"She must be stopped, no matter the cost."

[Hydra of Ages]

[quote name='Dark Rose' timestamp='1341666555' post='5969376']
@Hydra; police in different countries are extremely different to police in europe and the US. For example, in Brazil the police would let civilians burn a person alive for stealing from a store. And when money comes into the picture, you can get away with anything.
[/quote]

I'm fairly sure there isn't a police department on earth that turns away [i]tips relating to murder[/i] casually. Because dealing with murder is one of the [i]primary reasons for having a police department in the first place. [/i]

...When the hell did money come into the equation? It's a 15 year old girl not the freaking Kingpin.

[Enma Ai]

[quote name='Chris' timestamp='1341666912' post='5969380']
cbf to read the thread, so...

Can't you just tell the police and ask for anonymity?

And since I'd assume it's America, any number of murders is a full life sentence.
[/quote]

Yeah, reading the thread could help... tl;dr for you: Indonesia, girlfriend killed 4 people, police are dumb, girls dad is rich and guy is afraid she'll go on a revenge mission if he turns her in. wat do?

@Hydra; Other countries operate differently. No denying it. I could go to the Phillipinnes, kill someone, and bribe the police to let me go and I'd be a free person. No problem. And he mentioned her dad is rich, so I would assume he could bail her out if he did turn her in.

This is all assuming this is true anyway.

[This Account is Unplayable]

[quote name='Dark Rose' timestamp='1341667082' post='5969384']
Yeah, reading the thread could help... tl;dr for you: Indonesia, girlfriend killed 4 people, police are dumb, girls dad is rich and guy is afraid she'll go on a revenge mission if he turns her in. wat do?
[/quote]

Thread as in what was suggested, I read the OP.