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[quote name='jabber2033' timestamp='1344000412' post='5996199']
A Chris Format Tourney? I'm in!

And I assume you forgot about United We Stand? Wasn't there a combo back in the day where you summon a 1500+ ATK monster, equip with UWS, then flip Scapegoat?

And any thoughts on Charge of the Light Brigade or Black Whirlwind?
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United We Stand is awful. No one will use it seriously. It's a casual-play card at best.

With JD at 1, I'm not worried about LS.

Black Whirlwind means I can't unlimit Gale and BW appreciate Gale as much as Whirlwind, at least. Whirlwind just makes everyone want to play BWs.

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[quote name='mido9' timestamp='1344014698' post='5996396']
What made you put plague back at 1?

I'd prefer if kristya was gone and replaced with a third earth,since hyperion is a lot less broken than kristya.

Torrential at 3, Y/N?
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With a slower format, Zombies get so long to setup that their explosive plays with 3 PSZ seem kinda insane. I could be wrong though, but I don't want the format to be dominated by Zombies.

Kristya banned actually makes a lot of sense. If anything, considering Earth back to 1, or else Agent format is pretty inevitable.

Torrential is too strong a card to be @3, imo. @2 it punishes a player for wasting their TTs, @3 they really can be used mindlessly.

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Zombies still only have 1 mezuki(would probably be a good exchange for 2 plagues),1 burial and are down a brio,they wouldnt go wild with just two more plagues.

I think the format would be karakuri/GB/BW/Agent/gadget/hero/junk doppel format,all those decks get a boost from the toptier getting nerfed.

Using torrential randomly isnt a good idea since you might not get another torrential and end up losing for messing up with your old torrential,i dont think anyone would use it haphazardly at 3.

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If someone can bring out Leviair with Zombies, then Mezuki and plague best be at 1 (Ik that I was the one saying plague doesn't need to be limited, but over some time, I've seen why its at 1)

Also I know this is the troll part asking for discussion...but what if we brought back Rescue Cat at 1? *prepares bash-proof helmet and braces*

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[quote name='mido9' timestamp='1344016681' post='5996418']
Zombies still only have 1 mezuki(would probably be a good exchange for 2 plagues),1 burial and are down a brio,they wouldnt go wild with just two more plagues.

I think the format would be karakuri/GB/BW/Agent/gadget/hero/junk doppel format,all those decks get a boost from the toptier getting nerfed.

Using torrential randomly isnt a good idea since you might not get another torrential and end up losing for messing up with your old torrential,i dont think anyone would use it haphazardly at 3.
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Well, I guess PSZ is worth testing @2 if anything, tbh.

Seems like the kinda format I'd want to aim for, really. It's not insanely fast by any means. Definitely a format where Kristya shouldn't see play in so I'll change that.

TT is still a skilless card when you have 3 of it. If you draw 2, you can still use the first however you want, with no repercussion. Heck, the same then goes for the second, since you still have a third. Being able to draw something like that so consistently in a board-presence format seems horrible.
[quote name='Kenji Inuma' timestamp='1344017041' post='5996425']
If someone can bring out Leviair with Zombies, then Mezuki and plague best be at 1 (Ik that I was the one saying plague doesn't need to be limited, but over some time, I've seen why its at 1)

Also I know this is the troll part asking for discussion...but what if we brought back Rescue Cat at 1? *prepares bash-proof helmet and braces*
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Zombies can't make 3s for s*** as far as I know.

Cat is infinitesimally worse than Rabbit. No.

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[quote name='jabber2033' timestamp='1344018548' post='5996442']
What about REDMD?

Dragons do need a competitive edge. REDMD is the only thing that gives them consistency. Doesn't deserve to be at 3, but I don't think it needs to be banned either. Although I could just be bad at this...
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D: Even 1 REDMD is horrid...it sets up for big plays without much set up in the first place!

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I honestly think Rabbit should go to 0. I plan to watch and see how Rabbit works out in the Tourney you're gonna make, but I don't like the idea of a topdeckable win condition. Even if it's not as insane as Cat, it's still really stupid at even 1.

But, like I said, gonna use the tourney to decide if it's that bad or not.

[quote name='jabber2033' timestamp='1344018548' post='5996442']
What about REDMD?

Dragons do need a competitive edge. REDMD is the only thing that gives them consistency. Doesn't deserve to be at 3, but I don't think it needs to be banned either. Although I could just be bad at this...
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Dragons don't deserve any =T

Even 1 has Light Pulsar shenanigans.

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[quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1344018692' post='5996448']
I honestly think Rabbit should go to 0. I plan to watch and see how Rabbit works out in the Tourney you're gonna make, but I don't like the idea of a topdeckable win condition. Even if it's not as insane as Cat, it's still really stupid at even 1.
But, like I said, gonna use the tourney to decide if it's that bad or not.
Dragons don't deserve any =T
Even 1 has Light Pulsar shenanigans.
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Why would you run Rabbit though, when it forces you to have Normals?

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[quote name='Chris' timestamp='1344018927' post='5996455']
Do they even have much in the TCG? Seeing as the tourney will be TCG only. (Dunno if I mentioned that or forgot to)
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Oh.

Yeah, you forgot to, so then won't even be testing that. Shame.

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