This Account is Unplayable Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Er, you do know Instant Fusion kills the fusion it makes in the EP, right? And... It's basically a Smashing Ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1342146485' post='5976168'] Er, you do know Instant Fusion kills the fusion it makes in the EP, right? And... It's basically a Smashing Ground... [/quote] You're using this in a situation where you aren't immediately using the restrict as fodder because...? It's a Mind Control for a guaranteed level 1 at best, Inverse Soul Taker at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Right, I missed the fact that TER can still be used for stuff. Yeah ok, seems bad to bring back. *puts it back in forbidden* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CameronBarton Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 I'm surprised Honest isn't banned yet. For what it is.. it's incredibly OP'd and super OTK material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Î’yakuya Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 [quote name='CameronBarton' timestamp='1342148230' post='5976205'] I'm surprised Honest isn't banned yet. For what it is.. it's incredibly OP'd and super OTK material. [/quote] [media]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmb9cnx__hA[/media] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 [quote name='Light Υagami' timestamp='1342149658' post='5976227'] [media]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmb9cnx__hA[/media] [/quote] Are you just being thick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Î’yakuya Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1342185741' post='5976441'] Are you just being thick? [/quote] Maybe. But I just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Honest is broken. There's not much to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Î’yakuya Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1342186181' post='5976448'] Honest is broken. There's not much to get. [/quote] But would we be able to ban a card that gives "FFFFF" moments to duelists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 We can ban it for being completely broken. It fuels OTKs, being an in-hand effect is stupid since it creates an almost identical mindset for Gorz. It's recyclable with revival. It's LIGHT. I mean it's pretty weird to not have it banned yet, I just want to see if anyone has an argument against banning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 If you ban Honest, it just gives some depressing reasons to ban Kalut ;-; Although, to be honest, not really, since Kalut is cool and less broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Î’yakuya Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1342186418' post='5976452'] We can ban it for being completely broken. It fuels OTKs, being an in-hand effect is stupid since it creates an almost identical mindset for Gorz. It's recyclable with revival. It's LIGHT. I mean it's pretty weird to not have it banned yet, I just want to see if anyone has an argument against banning it. [/quote] I already understand how Honest is recyclable when it comes to be a freaking LIGHT monster with moderate stats, but yes, a good argument to ban it would be nice to get things right, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1342186523' post='5976454'] If you ban Honest, it just gives some depressing reasons to ban Kalut ;-; Although, to be honest, not really, since Kalut is cool and less broken. [/quote] In all fairness, I'd be willing to ban Kalut and bring Whirlwind up to 2 or 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1342186727' post='5976459'] In all fairness, I'd be willing to ban Kalut and bring Whirlwind up to 2 or 3. [/quote] Do it now. Kalut to 0, Whirlwind to 3 for testing, back down to 2 or 1 if it goes wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 I am ok with that. I'll update the OP with it, and since there simply is no compelling argument to keep Honest I'll just ban it as well. I needa actually build decks to test this format with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Î’yakuya Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 So we're going to revive Blackwings this format? Seems interesting a fun to compel to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 I'm now going to go build BWs in DN, and tell Dogking about this format. He lieks blackwings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Like I said, it's possibly only a temporary change. If 3 Whirlwind makes them too good then I have no hesitance in putting it back to 1. Just it's something I've wanted to test for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Black Whirlwind at 3? Shouldn't it be at 0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 It's a bit silly to hit one card for giving ridiculous +es and then unlimit black whirlwind when it turns all your normal summons into tour guides and free synchros and usually goes at least +1. Oh,and you can probably unlimit necro gardna,swords,monk,trag,teleport,LLAB,excavation and torrential with no fuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 idk am I just giving a format with 3 BoM, 2 TT, 2 BTH, 3 MST and the Solemn Trio too much credit for balancing out Whirlwind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Not really, but 3 is still a bit much. But with Kalut gone, I think it could safely go to 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 Possibly. I still want to test 3. So yeah, speaking of testing, this has now been 10 pages with literally no testing, so yah, gaiz, halp. I'm gonna be on DN for a while so if anyone wants to help me test random stuff then just message me. For those that don't know, my DN is "Hounds of Anubis". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 DW = Still shot in the leg, and arm, but can still deal decent damage. Agents = Got some life back into them. T.G.s = Are able to play more consistently without total ownage. DinoRabbit = Dead... Wind-ups = Needs a new way to Xyz Spam since their hand loop is gone, which is actually nice. ALTF4 Conditions = Dead...(aww bye bye trolls) LS = With JD at 1, they are gonna go into more careful plays Glads = Far more consistent with Gyz at 1 and Best at 3. Books help the deck too. Heroes = More drawy with D.Heroes and DDraw, less opposingly powerful with some main fusions out. Chain Burn = Is burned, but might still work a little XP Chaos Dragon = Needs alot more brains now with its doctor gone. Hieratics = Same reason for Chaos Dragons Chaos.dek = Much less of an overall beater powerhouse, but still decently consistent with combo plays. Evol/Jurrak = Seems to escape into the use of the Zars Blackwings = SHOULD be quite consisten with 3 Whirlwinds and 2 Gales Flamvell/Lavals = Must see with my own eyes X-Sabers = Must test for more viable results Scraps = ??? Where did they come from??? Smxy Sams = Shot in the hands...XD Token control = Da'fuq? What be dis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 So I take it testing is being done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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