The Twilight Knight Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Well, this is my second fusion card, tell me what you think. [img]http://i.imgur.com/5wPNZ.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvernstorm Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 How about giving it an effect, such as the ability to special summon a ceertain Sea-Serpent monster from the Graveyard. I think Sea-Serpent monsters are rare nowadays, i think if u make this card with stronger effect, it'll be kewlzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanPark24 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Why do none of your cards have any creativity? Please, at least TRY to make a decent card... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Twilight Knight Posted July 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 [quote name='JordanPark24' timestamp='1341989961' post='5973816'] Why do none of your cards have any creativity? Please, at least TRY to make a decent card... [/quote] Little harsh you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanPark24 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 [quote name='Red-Eyes Golden Dragon' timestamp='1341990674' post='5973827'] Little harsh you think. [/quote] It may be harsh, but then again, none of your cards have any substance. How come none of them have any effects, and if they do, it's a simple ATK gain effect? Is that the only thing you can think of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Twilight Knight Posted July 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 [quote name='JordanPark24' timestamp='1341990940' post='5973831'] It may be harsh, but then again, none of your cards have any substance. How come none of them have any effects, and if they do, it's a simple ATK gain effect? Is that the only thing you can think of? [/quote] No, it's not the only thing I can think of. It's just, I have better ideas but I'm afraid no one will like them and think there stupid. And then I'll get laughed at and be thought of as a idiot.I added a effect. [img]http://i.imgur.com/65VAS.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapspringer Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Don't be afraid to have your ideas critiqued. That's why people post their cards in the first place, to find out how others receive them. If you don't get the response you were looking for from a card you've posted the first time around, either revise it to make it better, or try a new idea. Remember, they're not judging you, they're judging your card. Speaking of, you're almost there with this one. If you have Photoshop or Gimp, I suggest putting a background to the card art to make it look more complete. Other than that, not bad. Do you have any more card ideas that might go along with this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love of Ghibli Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Lets see I'll be blunt your card was better without the effect. I get it, the card is old, requires 2 normal monsters as fusion material, and has no effect. Its still 3300 attack points which is cute and its a water card so it would be great with Umiruka lol Now with the effect I have to actually care about this thing and now I have to think about its effect and because you took the advice of someone who hasn't mastered card balance you yourself made an unbalanced card. Here is why. There is an archetype out (well coming out really) called Atlanteans and they are nothing but a bunch of overpowered Sea Serpents. You made a monster that whenever summoned, meaning after the initial fusion if I revive him in anyway it also counts, gets me one of these super powered water snakes from my deck to the field which sets up a tragedy of instances to follow therefore it is bad. Now I suggest you make it like chimera the mythical king of beast that way if this thing leaves the field you can at least summon spiral serpent with its 2900 attack to keep you alive. [quote name='Red-Eyes Golden Dragon' timestamp='1341991312' post='5973837'] No, it's not the only thing I can think of. It's just, I have better ideas but I'm afraid no one will like them and think there stupid. And then I'll get laughed at and be thought of as a idiot. [/quote] I'm sorry you feel this way let me explain why its purposeless to hold yourself back because of the opinions of others. [list] [*]You are 11 (I think if not disregard this) everyone who is over the age of 16 at this place probably sees themselves as your better subconsciously anyway [*]You have 2 stars which tells us all that you are new...so anyone not relatively new looks down on you [*]People here are harsh, what you have been experiencing is not even close to what some people will define as mean [*]You are currently being "laughed at" because you DON'T put your true ideas in this forum [/list] In short you gain nothing from holding back and you gain nothing by internalizing the negative comments that come at you. People are mean and people are rude, meh who cares, only those that give you something actionable to respond to are the ones you should care about anyway. And in under for us to give you some true feedback you have to give us everything you got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 This below contains my harshest, rudest and angriest rant yet. I suggest you don't read it if you are easily offended. If you do decide to read it, ignore the insults and focus on my advises. [spoiler=!Danger! RANT DETECTED !Danger!] [left]You are literally, the least creative card maker I've seen on YCM so far. Most of your cards are hideously outdated cards that would only be useful 10 years ago, when Yugi is still the king of games. Your cards are weak, slow, unoriginal and boring. BORING. Your cards are either fusion monsters that need 2 normal monsters, or something with a bland, generic ATK gain effect. Sometimes their strong, sure, but their still boring and unoriginal. If you want to evolve as a card maker, you need to get out of your shelter and post your ideas. Sometimes people will respond to them badly, but this is normal. It's a learning stage for all card makers. I went through this stage and heck, I'm still trying to figure out how to balance cards. But later on, you'll become better thanks to the critics and feedback you received and you can then make better, more useful and stronger cards. You need to show your ideas to the world, that's the point of this forum in the first place. A place to share your IDEAS on cards. A place where you say "Hey, I just made this card with X effect and X gimmick. Whaddya think?" to the world. Now sorry if this is not your style to make cards with new and revolutionary effects, but still, try to be more creative.[/left] As for this card, in it's first state it's basically the same as most of your fusion monsters. And there are several errors I can spot. First off, there is nothing such as a SERPENT type monster. The closest thing to that would be the Sea-Serpent type monsters. The effect is basically support for Banifish and nothing else. 3300 ATK is rather high but it's a fusion monster with no other gimmick. Like I told you, something new and more interesting would make it much better. But right now, it's just a bland, outdated fusion monster nobody will use. Because apparently you're a player stuck to the past of Yu-Gi-Oh and know nothing about the current meta, I would advise you to take a look at some of the newest cards released on the YGO wiki and hover around the "My Deck" section of this forum. It will help a lot, trust me. You can also take a look at some of the cards the older, more experienced members made, maybe you can draw some inspirations from those. End of rant. Dread Puroisen, Out. [/spoiler] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvernstorm Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Now now, he's still young (11 years old OMG!!), don't be so harsh...lulz Yow Red-EyesGoldenDragon, welcome to the club (club of people who suck at making cards) I'm one of those you see!!! LOLZ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 [quote name='Wyvernstorm' timestamp='1342004403' post='5973957'] Now now, he's still young (11 years old OMG!!), don't be so harsh...lulz [/quote] I wasn't being all that harsh. Most of it was actually advise hidden behind a mountain of insults. After climbing that mountain, you can see some gold behind it. Sometimes being harsh and brutally honest is a good and quick way to help card makers evolve. Or you can do it my way which takes 1 1/2 years by slowly learning how to make cards by playing the game competitively which takes far too long. Also, you don't really suck at making cards, Wyvernstorm. Because you're improving. Your first card and your newest card is miles different in a good way. Keep training and you'll eventually be much, much better at it. Same goes to you, Red Eyes Golden Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trapspringer Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 [quote name='Wyvernstorm' timestamp='1342004403' post='5973957'] Now now, he's still young (11 years old OMG!!), don't be so harsh...lulz Yow Red-EyesGoldenDragon, welcome to the club (club of people who suck at making cards) I'm one of those you see!!! LOLZ... [/quote] THANK YOU! I know everyone's entitled to their own opinions, but you really shouldn't rip someone a new one for being inexperienced. 11 years old and new to making cards. Cut him some slack people! Let him know what he needs to improve, but don't be a dick about it! By-the-by, a welcome from me as well. Guess it's a little late by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvernstorm Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 [quote name='Dread☆プロイセン' timestamp='1342004786' post='5973958'] I wasn't being all that harsh. Most of it was actually advise hidden behind a mountain of insults. After climbing that mountain, you can see some gold behind it. Sometimes being harsh and brutally honest is a good and quick way to help card makers evolve. Or you can do it my way which takes 1 1/2 years by slowly learning how to make cards by playing the game competitively which takes far too long.[/quote] Well...not all people can receive criticism in the same way, different person has different personality i think But anyway, you have ur own way and i like that about u, and also ur loli fetish lulz.. Still, u know that Forever Aloner dude right? Most of times, unlike u, he'll leave only Insults with no Solution or Advice, i hope everyone here won't be like that [quote name='Dread☆プロイセン' timestamp='1342004786' post='5973958'] Also, you don't really suck at making cards, Wyvernstorm. Because you're improving. Your first card and your newest card is miles different in a good way. Keep training and you'll eventually be much, much better at it. Same goes to you, Red Eyes Golden Dragon. [/quote] Of Course I know that, too LOL.. (just kidding..lulz) But u know...i just don't want this guy to feel lonely all the time, being sucks ain't really that bad u know LOL... Well, we'll improve somehow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidewinderX7 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 First draft, bloody useless. Second draft, not worth it yet. Overall, needs a background and a better effect. Also, your text needs revisions. My advice, look at how current Fusion monsters actually make them worth summoning and adjust yours accordingly. Final score: Material Monsters - 0.5 Art - 1.0 1.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvernstorm Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 [quote name='Trapspringer' timestamp='1342004831' post='5973959'] THANK YOU! I know everyone's entitled to their own opinions, but you really shouldn't rip someone a new one for being inexperienced. 11 years old and new to making cards. Cut him some slack people! Let him know what he needs to improve, but don't be a dick about it! By-the-by, a welcome from me as well. Guess it's a little late by now. [/quote] lulz i didn't mean it like that Anyway...Welcome to the club for u LOL[quote name='SidewinderX7' timestamp='1342006643' post='5973964'] First draft, bloody useless. Second draft, not worth it yet. Overall, needs a background and a better effect. Also, your text needs revisions. My advice, look at how current Fusion monsters actually make them worth summoning and adjust yours accordingly. Final score: Art - 1.0 Material Monsters - 0.5 1.5/10 [/quote] A super Honest dude appeared... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 [quote name='Wyvernstorm' timestamp='1342006544' post='5973963'] Well...not all people can receive criticism in the same way, different person has different personality i think But anyway, you have ur own way and i like that about u, and also ur [b]loli fetish[/b] lulz.. [/quote] Loli Fetish? What Loli Fetish? *types while looking up images of Anime Girls* [quote name='Wyvernstorm' timestamp='1342006544' post='5973963'] Still, u know that Forever Aloner dude right? Most of times, unlike u, he'll leave only Insults with no Solution or Advice, i hope everyone here won't be like that [/quote] Thanks! <3 But you gotta give kudos to him (Zanda [s]Satan [/s]Panda) for being widely known as one of the best card makers on this site. [quote name='Wyvernstorm' timestamp='1342006544' post='5973963'] Of Course I know that, too LOL.. (just kidding..lulz) But u know...i just don't want this guy to feel lonely all the time, being sucks ain't really that bad u know LOL... Well, we'll improve somehow... [/quote] Well, I also don't want any new members to leave. Y'know, considering how [u]active [/u]this site is. I would gladly help new members to improve, but they gotta take criticism since YCM isn't exactly the land of tolerance and love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvernstorm Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 [quote name='Dread☆プロイセン' timestamp='1342007368' post='5973966'] Loli Fetish? What Loli Fetish? *types while looking up images of Anime Girls*[/quote] LOLZ.. Umm..it's just that...i don't feel good calling you...ummm you see....'a perv' LOL [quote name='Dread☆プロイセン' timestamp='1342007368' post='5973966'] Thanks! <3 But you gotta give kudos to him (Zanda [s]Satan [/s]Panda) for being widely known as one of the best card makers on this site.[/quote] What's the meaning of "kudos"? u know...english is not my native language [quote name='Dread☆プロイセン' timestamp='1342007368' post='5973966'] Well, I also don't want any new members to leave. Y'know, considering how [u]active [/u]this site is. I would gladly help new members to improve, but they gotta take criticism since YCM isn't exactly the land of [b]tolerance and love[/b]. [/quote] LOL yeah maybe this place is not but 9ga* is the right place of tolerance and love...and troll LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Twilight Knight Posted July 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Thanks for the advice everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanPark24 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 [quote name='Dread☆プロイセン' timestamp='1342002313' post='5973947'] This below contains my harshest, rudest and angriest rant yet. I suggest you don't read it if you are easily offended. If you do decide to read it, ignore the insults and focus on my advises. [spoiler=!Danger! RANT DETECTED !Danger!] [left]You are literally, the least creative card maker I've seen on YCM so far. Most of your cards are hideously outdated cards that would only be useful 10 years ago, when Yugi is still the king of games. Your cards are weak, slow, unoriginal and boring. BORING. Your cards are either fusion monsters that need 2 normal monsters, or something with a bland, generic ATK gain effect. Sometimes their strong, sure, but their still boring and unoriginal. If you want to evolve as a card maker, you need to get out of your shelter and post your ideas. Sometimes people will respond to them badly, but this is normal. It's a learning stage for all card makers. I went through this stage and heck, I'm still trying to figure out how to balance cards. But later on, you'll become better thanks to the critics and feedback you received and you can then make better, more useful and stronger cards. You need to show your ideas to the world, that's the point of this forum in the first place. A place to share your IDEAS on cards. A place where you say "Hey, I just made this card with X effect and X gimmick. Whaddya think?" to the world. Now sorry if this is not your style to make cards with new and revolutionary effects, but still, try to be more creative.[/left] As for this card, in it's first state it's basically the same as most of your fusion monsters. And there are several errors I can spot. First off, there is nothing such as a SERPENT type monster. The closest thing to that would be the Sea-Serpent type monsters. The effect is basically support for Banifish and nothing else. 3300 ATK is rather high but it's a fusion monster with no other gimmick. Like I told you, something new and more interesting would make it much better. But right now, it's just a bland, outdated fusion monster nobody will use. Because apparently you're a player stuck to the past of Yu-Gi-Oh and know nothing about the current meta, I would advise you to take a look at some of the newest cards released on the YGO wiki and hover around the "My Deck" section of this forum. It will help a lot, trust me. You can also take a look at some of the cards the older, more experienced members made, maybe you can draw some inspirations from those. End of rant. Dread Puroisen, Out. [/spoiler] [/quote] That pretty much said anything I was thinking. All of his cards are stuck in the original series, while the rest of ours are flying through Zexal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SidewinderX7 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='Red-Eyes Golden Dragon' timestamp='1342035482' post='5974420'] Thanks for the advice everyone. [/quote] You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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