.Rai Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 [center][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120629214707/yugioh/images/thumb/6/6b/FiendishChain-SDWA-EN-C-1E.png/300px-FiendishChain-SDWA-EN-C-1E.png[/img][/center] Why does everyone on the DN forums think this is a mained staple at 3 like in every deck this format ._. vfygubhjknhbjvubh never visiting there again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Because according to them it's still March. I can understand running this in a few decks, but very few, and in general it's just outclassed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 They do? Iirc they think Veiler's better just like everybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted July 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 [quote name='Tsukasa Hiiragi' timestamp='1342009913' post='5973992'] They do? Iirc they think Veiler's better just like everybody else. [/quote] Half the people I've been reading have a serious distate for Veiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1342009999' post='5973994'] Half the people I've been reading have a serious distate for Veiler. [/quote] And there's a topic saying for a new duel room that bans the meta and to allow more skillful decks instead. Not all of DN is idiots. Their main appeal is just the TCG so the idiots take part in that. Just like how YCM's main appeal is the cardmaker so the idiots take part in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Sacreds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Meh, I still like it, it gives you such a feeling of safety to sit behind. I'd main 2 in every Deck that plays 8+ traps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I used to run this. then I got 3 mst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I prefer Chalice. Chalice is faster and somewhat more versatile, especially because most cards don't stay on the field for more than 1-2 turns anyway, so all this ends up doing is blocking Gorz from coming out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSektor Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Falcon Beat! Outclassed by Veiler in this format anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='werewolfjedi' timestamp='1342021305' post='5974125'] I used to run this. then I got 3 mst. [/quote] [img]http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4716905_700b.jpg[/img] Or why they don't stop using absolutely shitty ones. OT: Like Star, I much prefer Chalice to this. That 400 can actually make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 with this format, this is likely to be baits more than able to use the effect of it and that's may not be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Veiler does not work in the Battle Phase and does not prevent attacks. It can be stopped by D-Fissure/Macro Cosmos. Fiendish Chain does not work against monsters who leave the field as a cost for effects. Nor is it a LIGHT Tuner for Synchros and Graveyard setup. Plus it can be blown up by MST. Both are good against Inzektors and strong against Wind-Ups. Dino Rabbit can't play Royal Decree and can play Macro Cosmos to block Veiler, and can play Lance to block Chain temporarily (plus Rabbit and its Normal Monsters can't be hurt with Chain). Chaos Dragon and Gishki are hurt more by Chain. Hieratics are hurt slightly more by Veiler. I dunno. [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1344666093' post='5974047'] Sacreds [/quote] yusss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Fiendish can also do SOMETHING against Heroes and Dark Worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1342118995' post='5975645'] Fiendish can also do SOMETHING against Heroes and Dark Worlds. [/quote] The disappointment when they hit this with Grapha < Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Feel glad they didn't hit something more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1342120382' post='5975678'] Feel glad they didn't hit something more important. [/quote] I try not to keep myself very stacked against Dark Worlds regardless; the less I have on the field during their turn, the better. Less targets to hit. It's a very difficult Deck to play against for me, what with my inability to build a Side Deck properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Sportsfact: If Neos Alius hits the field before Skill Drain it will be immune to Fiendish Chain (because neither Trap Card will recognize it as an Effect Monster). If Skill Drain was out first you can use Fiendish Chain on Alius (because the effect to treat it as a Normal Monster is negated). [quote name='Neo Galaxy' timestamp='5542117444' post='5975683'] It's a very difficult Deck to play against for me, what with my inability to build a Side Deck properly. [/quote] I take it you need the Graveyard and can't run Macro Cosmos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='newhat' timestamp='1342120578' post='5975687'] Sportsfact: If Neos Alius hits the field before Skill Drain it will be immune to Fiendish Chain (because neither Trap Card will recognize it as an Effect Monster). If Skill Drain was out first you can use Fiendish Chain on Alius (because the effect to treat it as a Normal Monster is negated). I take it you need the Graveyard and can't run Macro Cosmos. [/quote] I run HEROes. Macro Cosmos shuts down half of my plays with ease by making Miracle Fusion, HERO Blast, etc. completely worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='Neo Galaxy' timestamp='1306142682' post='5975692'] I run HEROes. Macro Cosmos shuts down half of my plays with ease by making Miracle Fusion, HERO Blast, etc. completely worthless. [/quote] Fiendish Chain forms a pseudo-lock with [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Soul_Drain"]Soul Drain[/url]. I'd recommend Soul Drain or Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='newhat' timestamp='1342122028' post='5975720'] Fiendish Chain forms a pseudo-lock with [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Soul_Drain"]Soul Drain[/url]. I'd recommend Soul Drain or Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror. [/quote] Does Soul Drain stop Dark Worlds/Hornet from activating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 It won't affect Hornet since it activates on the field. It negates DWs though. Unless it's hitting Lightpulsar (Which you'd rather Light-Imprisoning against anyway) you'd always prefer SIM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='Chris' timestamp='1342122802' post='5975730'] It won't affect Hornet since it activates on the field. It negates DWs though. Unless it's hitting Lightpulsar (Which you'd rather Light-Imprisoning against anyway) you'd always prefer SIM. [/quote] Yeah, I was going to say I don't really see what it counters. Then again, I guess with Soul Drain and Skill Drain out, there isn't much that can be activated at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='Neo Galaxy' timestamp='1342122909' post='5975732'] Yeah, I was going to say I don't really see what it counters. Then again, I guess with Soul Drain and Skill Drain out, there isn't much that can be activated at all. [/quote] Rabbit, Cardcar, umm nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 [quote name='Kabasaurus' timestamp='5742124130' post='5975752'] [quote name='Neo Galaxy' timestamp='1347524220' post='5975752'] Yeah, I was going to say I don't really see what it counters. Then again, I guess with Soul Drain and Skill Drain out, there isn't much that can be activated at all. [/quote] Rabbit, Cardcar, umm nothing else. [/quote] Also the negation from Thunder King Rai-Oh or Doomcal, Mystic Piper, Hand of the Six Samurai, and the Koa'ki Meiru Rock guys. Not that many but Rai-Rey see much play, and none of these are blocked by Fiendish Chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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