Mehmani Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 [IMG]http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q497/Kunnerian/Cards/Ikseezinduo010edit.jpg[/IMG] Pretty cool name, if I do say so my self. Works very well in conjunction with Tour Guide and produces an Xyz instantly when summoned. The fact alone that you are left with an Xyz monster with only one overlaid monster provides enough balance, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 So essentially, as soon as its overlaid, it gets banished? Does that mean that if I were to go No. 17, I wouldn't be able to detach this to gain 500, or as soon as I detached it, it would be banished? I'm somewhat confused on that part because I don't know how to rate it properly without understanding the effect entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='Neo Galaxy' timestamp='1342461798' post='5979988'] So essentially, as soon as its overlaid, it gets banished? Does that mean that if I were to go No. 17, I wouldn't be able to detach this to gain 500, or as soon as I detached it, it would be banished? I'm somewhat confused on that part because I don't know how to rate it properly without understanding the effect entirely. [/quote] Exactly that, yes. As soon is it is overlaid, it gets banished. That's intended to nerf it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='Botvinnik' timestamp='1342462079' post='5979996'] Exactly that, yes. As soon is it is overlaid, it gets banished. That's intended to nerf it. [/quote] So there's not many situations in which you could run this and actually utilize the beatstick you bring out then, right? Meaning like Leviathan can't attack directly, Acid Golem's just stuck, Leviair's useless. So what exactly can you use it with that makes it actually worth running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Actually, the nerf I added makes it useless. The fact that you are left with an Xyz monster with only 1 overlaid monster is a restriction in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='Botvinnik' timestamp='1342463818' post='5980047'] Actually, the nerf I added makes it useless. The fact that you are left with an Xyz monster with only 1 overlaid monster is a restriction in itself. [/quote][quote name='Botvinnik' timestamp='1342463818' post='5980047'] Actually, the nerf I added makes it useless. The fact that you are left with an Xyz monster with only 1 overlaid monster is a restriction in itself. [/quote] Leaving it with 1 would actually make cards along the lines of Leviair, Leviathan, etc., actually playable. The restriction makes it unplayable because you can't do anything with what you bring out. I'd suggest maybe removing that line; you don't really need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Done it. Now Zenmaines is actually playable. Hilarious OTK with Inferno Reckless Summon, Acid Golem and Skill Drain (lol 4 card OTK). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 So this pretty much is another way to Normal Summon a Xyz Monster? It honestly isn't that balanced, as even fi you're only left with 1 Xyz Material, you're still getting a monster out, which can potentially give you a win for no effort whatsoever, aka you're pretty much only going to use this to get out a 2500 Leviathan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1342472941' post='5980212'] So this pretty much is another way to Normal Summon a Xyz Monster? It honestly isn't that balanced, as even fi you're only left with 1 Xyz Material, you're still getting a monster out, which can potentially give you a win for no effort whatsoever, aka you're pretty much only going to use this to get out a 2500 Leviathan. [/quote] Tour Guide can get you out a 3000 Leviathan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galkin Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 But at least Tour Guides requires you to run Fiends or a copy of itself. This card is an entirely different matter. If this card's level is changed, it can act as a free XYZ of that level. BY itself is an extremely splashable card that counts as 1 Rank 3 XYZ monster. This card is a single XYZ of its level with the one weakness of having only 1 XYZ material, but it can still be used to summon beatsticks. It is also Fiend DARK, so it works with BLS and chaos in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 [quote name='Botvinnik' timestamp='1342480699' post='5980350'] Tour Guide can get you out a 3000 Leviathan. [/quote] You're missing the bigger picture here. It doesn't matter if Tour Guide gives you a Xyz monster with 2 materials, getting out a Xyz for no cost whatsoever is broken and is bad card design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 [quote name='Zanda Panda' timestamp='1342519716' post='5980837'] You're missing the bigger picture here. It doesn't matter if Tour Guide gives you a Xyz monster with 2 materials, getting out a Xyz for no cost whatsoever is broken and is bad card design. [/quote] So Black Salvo, Debris Dragon, Tour Guide, Plaguespreader, Spore et al. are all bad card design? Sure, they offer exactly what you are referring to. This card is still a -1. I'll add a once per Duel clause (Spore reminded me). And Tour Guide is a very splashable card, Galkin. It requires you to run Sangan or another Tour Guide, and as we know, pretty much every deck bar certain themes run either of those cards. You could have made the beatstick point just as much before I buffed this card. Keep the fact the level changing is a rare mechanic in mind, not to mention the fact that most Rank 3 Xyz cap their attack at around 2000 (with the exception of Acid Golem, which has a whole bunch of clauses to nerf it anyway). That being said, I'll nerf it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Black Salvo? Anyways, you can overlay this one card into Zenmaity. [color=#ff0000]No[/color]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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