Alpakha Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Vengevine' timestamp='1343132193' post='5987345'] Scapegoat is fine for reasons Jack's already said, it's a good stall card and only good players will be able to use it to its full extent. DNA Surgery is f***ing awful. ._. FHD isn't a problem card, FuFu is. [/quote] Isn't that basically what i said o.0... except mine was more noobish.... [quote name='ウォーグレイモン' timestamp='1343132002' post='5987342'] Okay Mr.I'mbetterthaneveryoneelsebecausei'mgoodatachildrenscardgameandiplaycompetetivelysothatdefinetlymakesmebetteramiriteoramirite. I say DNA Surgery cause FHD, and OmniHero spam, Scapegoat supports most fusions that rely on types rather than specific monsters. [/quote] is this aimed at me or Vengevine o.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Kvn523' timestamp='1343132651' post='5987356'] Isn't that basically what i said o.0... except mine was more noobish.... [/quote] Was responding to Simon. (The guy with the jap characters for his name) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Goat at 3 cuz I wanna play plasma spam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Vengevine' timestamp='1343132725' post='5987361'] Was responding to Simon. (The guy with the jap characters for his name) [/quote] I know, so did i (in earlier post, by this i mean the one 5-6 rows above urs o.0), i just noticed that we had almost (almost) the exact post..... me and meh observations xP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 -banned- black luster soldier - envoy of the beginning (too easy to summon, 3000 atk, attack twice. how can you not see this as a problem, konami?) exodia the forbidden one (too many +1 and +2 draws, this is basically a list of 5 monsters and 35 pot of greeds. it's ridiculous and it needs to stop) five-headed dragon (if this dies, then future fusion can be at least 2. besides, the reason fhd is a threat is because of its use in chaos dragon. it doesn't even need to be on the field, it's just target/grave abusable with future fusion) -limited- evolsar dolkka (rescue rabbit's not the problem, it's the dinos that are) evolsar laggia (again, rabbit's not the problem) torrential tribute (because with priority being gone, this card has gotten a lot faster and better) tour guide from the underworld (too spammy) trishula, dragon of the ice barrier (come on, this would make synchros playable again, and trishula's not that bad... at least i think. there are ways to get around this card, so yeah) wind-up carrier zenmaity (this is a big reason, if not the main, why wind-ups spam) -semi- effect veiler (yes, this card is good at 3 because it stops opp's monsters' effects, but that's a problem. seeing this at two will probably slow down a lot of decks' comebacks) future fusion (with fhd being banned but this still at two, i know some decks that will abuse this card too much. heroes, and... other type of hero decks... well... that's it. heroes. but it's okay, because they're not as big a threat as chaos dragons.) leviair the sea dragon (believe it or not, i find this to be abusable.) night assailant (the only flip effects people use are ryko, gk spy, and.... what else? it wouldn't hurt to see this at two, would it?) wind-up rabbit (well, it IS abusable, but only semi potential, how i see it) wind-up rat (another big reason wind-ups spam) -unlimited- ojama trio (unless i'm missing some abusable combo with this card, it's rendered pretty much useless and should be at 3, because no one ever plays this) oh, and max the deck at 50, not 60. i hate seeing those noobs on dn with 60 cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Really, they should have realized that they needed to get rid of Future Fusion long ago. The card on paper was an interesting idea, but the way it can be abused is messed up. There's a lot of cards I would personally ban, but that's just me. EDIT: Also, Trio has its OTK with certain cards and is used with chain burn, which is why it was limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc. Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Make the deck limit 40 cards only, saves me wasting my time with 60 card decks. Semi Blasting the Ruins, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 People still think Rabbit isn't the problem? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 well... it isn't. the dinos are. i don't see much use of rabbit other than specific type xyz monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='ウォーグレイモン' timestamp='1343134784' post='5987390'] Make the deck limit 40 cards only, saves me wasting my time with 60 card decks. Semi Blasting the Ruins, [/quote] Some decks actually run better using more than 40 cards, such as back in the day with Fourth Gadget, and that one OCG deck that I think was called Tower of Power where they looped using Zombie Master's effect (back in the days of Mass Driver). Their deck was 60 cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1343135050' post='5987398'] well... it isn't. the dinos are. i don't see much use of rabbit other than specific type xyz monsters. [/quote] Normal summoning an Xyz is almost never balanced. ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1343135050' post='5987398'] well... it isn't. the dinos are. i don't see much use of rabbit other than specific type xyz monsters. [/quote] [b][u]Rabbit Dies[/u][/b] Dinosaur decks have a reason to be ran for having a specific boss that's actually decent, yet there's no abuse. [b][u]Dinos Dies[/u][/b] Dinos are still an under-supported type, and you're left with a crap designed and useless Rabbit, outside of restricting card design for the future in case someone accidently makes an Xyz that supports a type/attribute. Rabbit dying all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Vengevine' timestamp='1343135328' post='5987407'] Normal summoning an Xyz is almost never balanced. ._. [/quote] you're right, but if you limit them, then they see less play, which makes the main card less threatening. in this case, limit/ban evolzar xyzs, rabbit stays. and what else do you see rabbits in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Everyone is like BAN RABBIT, hten others BAN LAGGIA/DOLKA..... why not just limit the vanilla dinos, everyone happy^^. Anyways, i realize that this post is completely (*&*&^&# (i couldn't think of what to say and i wasn't censoring a swear), but i wanted to see people's reactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Kvn523' timestamp='1343135542' post='5987413'] Everyone is like BAN RABBIT, hten others BAN LAGGIA/DOLKA..... why not just limit the vanilla dinos, everyone happy^^. Anyways, i realize that this post is completely (*&*&^&# (i couldn't think of what to say and i wasn't censoring a swear), but i wanted to see people's reactions. [/quote] huh... now that you mention it... who am i kidding, that's never going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 It's funny because people would still use Dino Rabbit with the Zars limited. .Rai summed everything else up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Dinos gone? Just use HERO Rabbit. Sparkman for Blade Armor Ninja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='ウォーグレイモン' timestamp='1343116243' post='5987248'] Scapegoat banned, DNA Surgery Limited Five Headed Dragon Limited. And I think y'all know why, [/quote] [img]http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002682511/5843945515_2191641_ohyou_answer_3_xlarge.jpeg[/img] OT: Anybody else think Mind Control needs to go? That card is only going to get worse, and its already pretty OP'ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1343135843' post='5987420'] OT: Anybody else think Mind Control needs to go? That card is only going to get worse, and its already pretty OP'ed. [/quote] Yes. Same with Gaia Dragon. And everything else I banned on my banlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Miror B.' timestamp='1343135812' post='5987419'] Dinos gone? Just use HERO Rabbit. Sparkman for Blade Armor Ninja. [/quote] theoretically, i can see warriors such as excalibur and ninja being used with rabbit if laggia and dolkka ever die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 So normal summoning a 4000 monster or a 2200 double attacker is good card design? Wat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Alda Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1343135843' post='5987420'] OT: Anybody else think Mind Control needs to go? That card is only going to get worse, and its already pretty OP'ed. [/quote] It's Change of Heart but with a couple of minor restrictions. Of course it has to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1343135843' post='5987420'] [img]http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002682511/5843945515_2191641_ohyou_answer_3_xlarge.jpeg[/img] OT: Anybody else think Mind Control needs to go? That card is only going to get worse, and its already pretty OP'ed. [/quote] It does need to go. But something tells me that it won't. Not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1343135982' post='5987425'] i can see warriors such as excalibur and ninja being used with rabbit if laggia and dolkka die. [/quote] Non-extinct dinos > a bad HERO variant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Vengevine' timestamp='1343135922' post='5987423'] Yes. Same with Gaia Dragon. And everything else I banned on my banlist. [/quote] I saw the phrase on top of ur pic and was like... HELL NO! "Mathew 5:5" Anywaya, why gaia? Only place i seen it abused is Hieratics (which needs a HUGE fixing), if we can get rid of hieratic o'ped problem then Gaia is no longer issue... unless u know another way for gaia to be abused0__0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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