ranma1/2 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1343136172' post='5987432'] Non-extinct dinos > a bad HERO variant [/quote] why would you use heroes? i'd be using ninjas. anything but rabbit heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Alda Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Vengevine' timestamp='1343136041' post='5987427'] So normal summoning a 4000 monster or a 2200 double attacker is good card design? Wat. [/quote] Whenever I see Rabbit, I think "Oh hell, there goes the neighborhood," and then "Mmm, hasenpfeffer..." I have no idea why it isn't banned already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1343136259' post='5987436'] why would you use heroes? i'd be using ninjas. anything but rabbit heroes. [/quote] I'm sorry, but how to do suggest using Normal monsters in Ninjas? Unless you mean something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Yeah, due to Exceeds, Rabbit can pretty much adapt to anything... So I suppose there is really only one choice: Ban Little Winguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1343136378' post='5987440'] I'm sorry, but how to do suggest using Normal monsters in Ninjas? Unless you mean something different. [/quote] to be honest with you, i don't know yet. but i was only saying i'd use ninjas over heroes. and the idea of rabbit hero scares me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Kvn523' timestamp='1343136242' post='5987435'] I saw the phrase on top of ur pic and was like... HELL NO! "Mathew 5:5" Anywaya, why gaia? Only place i seen it abused is Hieratics (which needs a HUGE fixing), if we can get rid of hieratic o'ped problem then Gaia is no longer issue... unless u know another way for gaia to be abused0__0 [/quote] idek what you're on about. As for Gaia, it removes any and all restrictions on any rank 5 or 6 and replaces it with a 2600 body that pierces. And that's just the short version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 How 'bout instead of banning Rabbit...........(long pause cuz dramatic)................. WE LIMIT ALL LEVEL 4 AND LOWER NORMAL MONSTERS MUAHAHAHAHAH *gets shot*. I realize that this is EXTREMELY crazy, but i wanted reactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Kvn523' timestamp='1343136602' post='5987447'] How 'bout instead of banning Rabbit...........(long pause cuz dramatic)................. WE LIMIT ALL LEVEL 4 AND LOWER NORMAL MONSTERS MUAHAHAHAHAH *gets shot*. I realize that this is EXTREMELY crazy, but i wanted reactions. [/quote] stop it. you're not funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Vengevine' timestamp='1343136568' post='5987446'] idek what you're on about. As for Gaia, it removes any and all restrictions on any rank 5 or 6 and replaces it with a 2600 body that pierces. And that's just the short version. [/quote] I know gaia eff. Most rank 6 are stronger than he is and still useful (even if no material), i would only see this guy on rank 5 that used up their material. I have see any way(s) to abuse him other than Hieratics (as rank 5-6 aren't exactly uber easy to do) P.s. Mathew 5:5-6 is a bible verse, just ignore it if you want [quote name='ranma1/2' timestamp='1343136674' post='5987448'] stop it. you're not funny. [/quote] Kay. No prob i realize i would get these reactions and i will stop any further post like this, but i was slighty (SLIGHTLY) serious about limiting the dino vanilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 @ Above: You're forgetting that by using Gaia you're getting rid of any restrictions the Xyz may have had, such as not being able to attack that turn. It's an OTK enabler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I make Atum, grab REDMD, and remove Atum's restriction by making him into Gaia Dragon. I make Exa-Beetle. Pop something for free. Make him a 2600 piercer instead of the 1000 balanced Rank 6 he was. In the OCG, they can make Volca, pop something, and still attack directly with a 2600 beater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Vengevine' timestamp='1343137098' post='5987455'] I make Atum, grab REDMD, and remove Atum's restriction by making him into Gaia Dragon. I make Exa-Beetle. Pop something for free. Make him a 2600 piercer instead of the 1000 balanced Rank 6 he was. In the OCG, they can make Volca, pop something, and still attack directly with a 2600 beater. [/quote] I did say i haven't seen him abused OUTSIDE of hieratics, still not completely convinced he should be banned. I'm probably wrong, but whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Vengevine' timestamp='1343137098' post='5987455'] I make Atum, grab REDMD, and remove Atum's restriction by making him into Gaia Dragon. I make Exa-Beetle. Pop something for free. Make him a 2600 piercer instead of the 1000 balanced Rank 6 he was. In the OCG, they can make Volca, pop something, and still attack directly with a 2600 beater. [/quote] You forgot how you can make Tiras turn from an invincible beatstick to a beatstick with piercing once the invincibility wears off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc. Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Do you know what killed the Dinosaurs? THE ICE AGE!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='ウォーグレイモン' timestamp='1343137294' post='5987459'] Do you know what killed the Dinosaurs? THE ICE AGE!!!! [/quote] What.... that's barely scientifically correct. Scientists think that the dinos were killed off by a huge apocalyptic event , then that event caused the ice age (which possibly have killed off any remaining dinos). Anyways, it IS a theory but a pretty good one at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Alda Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Kvn523' timestamp='1343137637' post='5987463'] What.... that's barely scientifically correct. Scientists think that the dinos were killed off by a huge apocalyptic event , then that event caused the ice age (which possibly have killed off any remaining dinos). Anyways, it IS a theory but a pretty good one at that. [/quote] AHEM...anyway, banning cards. I wonder what'll happen to Tin Goldfish once it hits the TCG. It doesn't seem [i]awfully[/i] OP'd, but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='ウォーグレイモン' timestamp='1343137294' post='5987459'] Do you know what killed the Dinosaurs? THE ICE AGE!!!! [/quote] No, we're not limiting Cold Wave. *badumtish.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zowayix Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 They need to make a Mind Control variant with an effect like "Take control of 1 monster your opponent controls until the End Phase. It cannot attack. If it leaves the field, you must pay half your Life Points." or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Alda Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Zowayix' timestamp='1343137797' post='5987468'] They need to make a Mind Control variant with an effect like "Take control of 1 monster your opponent controls until the End Phase. It cannot attack. If it leaves the field, you must pay half your Life Points." or something. [/quote] You're forgetting that the "kidnapped" monster can still use its effect(s). Effects are arguably more important than attacking. So no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Stan Alda' timestamp='1343137790' post='5987466'] AHEM...anyway, banning cards. I wonder what'll happen to Tin Goldfish once it hits the TCG. It doesn't seem [i]awfully[/i] OP'd, but who knows? [/quote] None of the cards that SS from the hand will ever be hit, if only because they're godly inconsistent outside of Level-based decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Zowayix' timestamp='1343137797' post='5987468'] They need to make a Mind Control variant with an effect like "Take control of 1 monster your opponent controls until the End Phase. It cannot attack. If it leaves the field, you must pay half your Life Points." or something. [/quote] http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Mental_Corruption Won't this do instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Zowayix' timestamp='1343137797' post='5987468'] They need to make a Mind Control variant with an effect like "Take control of 1 monster your opponent controls until the End Phase. It cannot attack. If it leaves the field, you must pay half your Life Points." or something. [/quote] We need a replacement for Mind Control as much as we need a replacement for Rabbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='Kokomoe' timestamp='1343137946' post='5987473'] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Mental_Corruption"]http://yugioh.wikia....ntal_Corruption[/url] Won't this do instead? [/quote] [s]Its effect has almost nothing in common with mind control [/s](edit srry, the link went to a different anime card o.0 i don;t know why)... Konami failed so many times at making a controlling spell card Change of heart, snatch steal, brain control, etc. They had successful ones though and they should just leave us with that. Mind control to the ban list i say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Alda Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 [quote name='.Rai' timestamp='1343137939' post='5987472'] None of the cards that SS from the hand will ever be hit, if only because they're godly inconsistent outside of Level-based decks. [/quote] I didn't think it would be; I'm just curious. I'm not terribly well-informed about the meta, and I'm not too interested; I'm an undermeta guy. [quote name='Kokomoe' timestamp='1343137946' post='5987473'] [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Mental_Corruption"]http://yugioh.wikia....ntal_Corruption[/url] Won't this do instead? [/quote] It makes a bit more sense, but lord knows what people will do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 It's not as if we don't already have an ungodly amount of Mind Control replacements anyway. We're getting three control cards in Abyss Rising: Mental Corruption (as Koko said), Straggling Force and Memory of a Rival. We still have Enemy Controller. We still have Tragoedia, even though we shouldn't. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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