宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Yeah. Sorry for those of you who had to witness the unspeakable mess that is Black Chimera - Houjuu. My next card will be very different from the others, the picture is not from Zerochan nor Safebooru, it's from El Bartonka's album. Don't actually consider this a part of the actual Xyz Daily series, since it doesn't follow the set of rules I've made by myself for the Xyz Daily series. [spoiler=V1] [img]http://i46.tinypic.com/mbqruq.jpg[/img] [/spoiler] [IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/14torv5.jpg[/IMG] [spoiler=In case of brokenness.] 2 Level 5 Monsters Once per turn, you can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card: Discard up to 2 cards from your hand. [/spoiler] Yeah. I may hate Dark Worlds, but I only hate them when I'm against them. I actually run DW's in DN and I have a certain degree of success with them. I also run Fabled/DW decks in TF5, but it wasn't all that good. So I hope this thing can bring more consistency to Dark Worlds. The naming follows the usual DW color parody (In this case, Purple) and it does what it's supposed to do pretty well, actually. So rate, fix if broken, and CnC is always welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 No... I'm sorry Toyo, but this is putting Grapha in the grave in really short order, in fact, giving the method to summon Grapha straight away. Since, Grapha then bounces this, or any monster you may summon from this things discard effect, and then summons itself. Dark worl ironically don't need more consitentcy. However, i'm not a 100% sure on the actual ease they could summon this. Though, i imagine they would find a way. The fact it isn't a useage for Goldd or Silva does help mitigate it slightly. Umm... how to change it. You could say... except for Grapha in the effect, keeping it from being a foolish Burial. Or you could leave out the discard effect. Since, although its good... combine it with grapha, and its Nuking a card as well. Basically, this thing sets up Grapha plays, which is the decks win conditions. I would have one or the other, but not both. Still a million times better than Black Chimera was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Awkward OCG with two semi-colons is awkward. First semi-colon should be a colon; the original colon should be an 'and'. Oh, and good Dark Worlds should never be able to get it out, so it's balanced in that sense. In another sense, it's broken because it was obviously only made to dump Grapha which is weird and generally bad design. Targeted milling is generally a bad concept YGO shouldn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Alright, nerfed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Card is UP'd. -.- Unless it was drastically different before, it isn't going to work. First off, it is going to miss timing whenever a Dark World monster is discarded, so it only works if you are discarding something that does nothing, which you should never be doing anyways. Secondly, its rank 4, so it is not even really summonable. If it was rank 5, i could MAYBE see it being played at 1. Currently, its BS. Won't get any play, terribly underpowered, why would you ever nerf this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 The effect before adds a "Discard up to 2 Cards From your hand" after the send to the graveyard part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 [quote name='ドレッド★Toyo' timestamp='1343598309' post='5992135'] The effect before adds a "Discard up to 2 Cards From your hand" after the send to the graveyard part. [/quote] That still is incredibly UP'd. In order to do 1 thing you want to do, you have to do 2 things you don't want to do. First, you have to get out 2 level 4 monsters. Never happens in Dark World. Second, you have to discard a card from your hand with no effect that happens when it is discarded to the Graveyard. Bad part #2. Then, you get to foolish burial things (wow) and then you get to discard 2 cards, which you would have been able to discard anyway if you had not discarded useless things so it doesn't miss timing. Oh, and it doesn't satisfy Grapha's cost. All in all, UBER up'd card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 So... Two of you says it's OP'd, while you say it's UP'd. I'm confused, rargh. Anyway, major card revamp, but I still kept the original there in case you want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Well, you can use logic and tell that the old version is UP'd. It should be pretty obvious once you realize it misses timing and you know how to play Darkworld. So. On to the new version. A support card for the "bad" darkworld, the version playing Sillvaas and Goldds, or however they spell those. Its got 2300 ATk, so on summon you are giving up 2300 ATK and 2 Grapha Reborns. Sadface. However, you do get to discard 2 cards, although you get nothing for it. Confused, slanted, and mildly insane happyface. All in all: The new version is slightly better. Its the type of card bad players summon on DN or IRL, just because it theoretically "supports" the archetype. However, good players would never really use it. Still UP'd, but not nearly as much. It is a meh rank 5 Xyz for the bad build of darkworld. By the way, stop trying to make Xyzs for Darkworld. The only type they would ever use is Rank 3s and Rank 8s, and only Rank 8s if it is sufficiently broken to be a good deal on 2 graphas, which, unless it is ENTIRELY situational, almost qualifies it as bad design by itself. As for rank 3s, I guess if you made this a rank 3 it would be used, but that just makes TGU even more broken than it already is. Not trying to be harsh, but I think you are having a bit of a bad day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted July 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Yeah, I guess I better stop making support for decks I rarely even use. Oh well, I hope the next edition of Xyz Daily would be better. Still, it could be worse. *points to Black Chimera* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekazu4u Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 [quote name='ドレッド★Toyo' timestamp='1343605593' post='5992240'] Yeah, I guess I better stop making support for decks I rarely even use. Oh well, I hope the next edition of Xyz Daily would be better. Still, it could be worse. *points to Black Chimera* [/quote] To be fair, there actually is a place for cards like this. You have to give n00bs something to play, and fill up the packs with something. :E UP'd card without obvious design flaw = OK, but boring. OP'd card with obvious design flaw = Game breaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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