Luna874 Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Wisel Attack 5 is an anime only card which doubled battle damage that a Meklord monster would inflict going by the anime version of Meklord Emperor Wisel. Take that effect, make it generic and only last until the opponent's end phase, then slap it on a 4000 ATK beatstick and you get this. It being DARK and a Dragon doesn't help, since it is easily supported. [img]http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2448/ultimatedragonofinfinit.jpg[/img] Lore: 3 Level 10 DARK monsters Can only be Special Summoned by Xyz Summon and cannot be Summoned by other ways. This card cannot be targeted by Spell Cards. Once per turn, you can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; Until the End Phase, when this card battles another monster, Battle Damage dealt to your opponent is doubled. I made this card as a win more card, since if you have 3 level 10s on the field, you should be able to go for game. I made have 4000 ATK since it's original ATK when I made this card (3500 ATK) was low for it's summoning conditions IMO. Especially when compared to NGEPD who is a rank 8 with 4500, also taking 3 Xyz materials while that rank 10 robot has 5000 ATK and DEF for requiring 3 Xyz materials. It's only immune to spells which target (Book of Moon, Forbidden Lance, etc.) but not cards like Dark Hole, Lightning Vortex or any spell which doesn't target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Milenko Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 You should make it "All Battle Damage from other cards." That way you can't swing with it and 1 turn kill with it's own effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna874 Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Though considering it's summoning conditions, I thought about making it that powerful. The only way it can deal 8000 damage is to attack directly, and if you have 3 level 8s and you could attack directly, you probably could win in a single turn anyway. That's my logic at least. Since if someone has 3 level 8s and still can't take control of the duel sounds unlikely. Perhaps it should be "All Battle Damage from this card" instead? Since it can be easy to summon things like BLS or Chaos Sorcerer after summoning this, and BLS being able to attack twice whilst dealing double damage sounds pretty intimidating in itself. I mean alone, it's dealing about 7000 total damage after attacking twice, and then when you factor in Honest and/or Armoury Arm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc. Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Detach one. Attack Directly. gg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna874 Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 I changed the lore slightly, but in a way that can work against you. New lore: 3 Level 8 monsters If this card is Xyz Summoned using a Synchro monster as Xyz Material, this card is unaffected by Spell Cards. Once per turn, you can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; [b]All Battle Damage dealt is doubled[/b], until your opponent's next End Phase. This includes Battle Damage dealt to you too. So if your opponent destroys all monsters you control with an effect (Dark Hole, Absolute Zero, etc), they can attack you directly and deal double Battle Damage to you. Now imagine if they summoned BLS and dealt 6000 damage to you and you lose, but you would have survived if the damage wasn't doubled. Traps still screw this card over (Dimensional Prison, Mirror Force and Magic Cylinder to name some) and so do monsters like Ryko, Snowman Eater or even Effect Veiler. More often than not, your opponent will have at least 1 in their backrow. The card works like this: If you summon it successfully and attack directly, you win and that's the whole role of this card, to overkill your opponent. If your opponent negates the summon and destroys with Solemn Warning, OR if they use something like Dimensional Prison, then you are probably going to lose on your opponent's next turn if the opponent summons a monster with at least 2000 ATK, so they can deal 4000 damage at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 This card seems OK, aside from the fact that you'd almost never use its first effect. It encourages Darklord OTK more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Milenko Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Now with it being all damage, I love it. I liked it before, but it felt like it could get banned cause of spamming specials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suibon Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 [center]Well, hello Exceed version of Shitting Quasar Dragon, summonable via Gadgets, Ultimate Offering, and Tannhauser Gate.[/center] [center]I don't know why people are fascinated with making and seeing cards like yours, but I do not approve. GG, bruh.[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 [quote name='Suibon' timestamp='1343866795' post='5994907'] summonable via Gadgets, Ultimate Offering, and Tannhauser Gate[/quote] Gadgets and Offering can already OTK without this card. That loop doesn't enable its first effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suibon Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 [quote name='newhat' timestamp='1343867100' post='5994913'] Gadgets and Offering can already OTK without this card. That loop doesn't enable its first effect. [/quote] [center]Would that first effect really matter? This is an OTK, plain and simple, and you don't drop this when there is potential for removal.[/center] [center]Yes, I know Gadgets can OTK without this card, but who cares? They can go into this abomination with the same end result -- who's counting the butthurt?[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacktheflash96 Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 Hieratic seal of the sun dragon overlord + inferno reckless summon = This card = FTK Dragonic tactics + two hieratic monster + Galaxy eyes photon dragon = two hieratic seals of the sun dragon overlord =this card Hieratic + this card = all night every night xD Hieratic would actually have bum sex with this card it would be currraazee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutman50 Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 This card is overpowered, but your opponent has PLENTY of opportunities to negate it, or kill you on their turn with your card's effect. If this was real, I'd run it in my "Fusion Heaven" and "Lockdown HERO" decks, because they use "Chain Material." Go for two "Vision HERO Adoration"s and a "Elemental HERO Absolute Zero," overlay them all, usually for "Neo Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon," but with THIS card.. It's game. Especially if I DID have Royal Decree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 Detatch, attack directly, win. It's not too hard to make, too. The first effect is useless. It's literally a walking OTK. It comes out. You win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc. Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 [quote name='Luna874' timestamp='1343851742' post='5994681'] I changed the lore slightly, but in a way that can work against you. New lore: 3 Level 8 monsters If this card is Xyz Summoned using a Synchro monster as Xyz Material, this card is unaffected by Spell Cards. Once per turn, you can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; [b]All Battle Damage dealt is doubled[/b], until your opponent's next End Phase. This includes Battle Damage dealt to you too. So if your opponent destroys all monsters you control with an effect (Dark Hole, Absolute Zero, etc), they can attack you directly and deal double Battle Damage to you. Now imagine if they summoned BLS and dealt 6000 damage to you and you lose, but you would have survived if the damage wasn't doubled. Traps still screw this card over (Dimensional Prison, Mirror Force and Magic Cylinder to name some) and so do monsters like Ryko, Snowman Eater or even Effect Veiler. More often than not, your opponent will have at least 1 in their backrow. The card works like this: If you summon it successfully and attack directly, you win and that's the whole role of this card, to overkill your opponent. If your opponent negates the summon and destroys with Solemn Warning, OR if they use something like Dimensional Prison, then you are probably going to lose on your opponent's next turn if the opponent summons a monster with at least 2000 ATK, so they can deal 4000 damage at the very least. [/quote] You can still detach 1 and then go "gg". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 OTK cards are never good design, no matter how hard they are to summon. OT: Hieratics+This=gg brah. That's all I can say, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 ...Lol. Do you genuinely think this is balanced? Do you? Someone tell me how you can make this, detach a material and then Oni-Gami this without this being broken? Like, holy crap. It's broken as hell, it doesn't matter how restrictive you make the materials. As soon as this successfully hits the field, you win. Oh, and it can be brought back by Xyz Reborn as a 4k beatstick still able to win in one swing. You're going to need to seriously fix this. My recommendation would be the following. Lore: 3 Level 8 monsters [b]Can only be Special Summoned by Xyz Summon and cannot be Summoned by other ways.[/b] If this card is Xyz Summoned using a Synchro monster as Xyz Material, this card is unaffected by Spell Cards. Once per turn, you can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; All Battle Damage dealt [b]from other cards[/b] is doubled, until your opponent's next End Phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna874 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 Second new lore: 3 Level 10 DARK monsters Can only be Special Summoned by Xyz Summon and cannot be Summoned by other ways. This card cannot be targeted by Spell Cards. Once per turn, you can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; Until the End Phase, when this card battles another monster, Battle Damage dealt to your opponent is doubled. As you can see, it's a rank 10, and requires 3 level 10 DARK monsters. Outside of REDMD, good luck getting 3 level 10s on the field in general. As for it's doubled damage, it now only applies when it battles another monster, so attacking directly will only deal the usual 4000 damage. It is impossible for this card to OTK by itself unless your opponent has a monster with 0 ATK on the field in attack mode (unlikely). It's only immune to spells which target (Enemy Controller, Book of Moon and Gemini Spark to name some examples) but not things like Dark Hole or even Soul Taker. It can still deal a considerable amount of damage though. Using it with Twin Swords of Flashing Light and/or Big Bang Blow could potentially OTK in some cases due to piercing damage, but it's a bit more...situational. Before you ask how this thing is summoned: REDMD is easy to summon, you have Galaxy Queens Light and some Malefics are level 10. You could summon this by special summoning REDMD by it's own conditions, normal summon Tour Guide and use it's effect to summon Sangan/Other Tour Guide and then use Galaxy Queen's Light. Though it's still harder to bring out than when it was a rank 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyrithe Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 Yeah dude that is alot harder to summon now because of how specific it is unless you have alot of high lvl dark monsters in your deck. And it cant be special summoned any other way. And the new battle effect is pretty balanced to me because theres another with a pretty close eff, its a synchro XX-Saber monster. Also, how do most people find crazy cool artworks for most of their monsters...it's awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 It doesn't look so "Ultimately Despaired" in my opinion. He looks rather haughty and arrogant when it comes to that giant beatstick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna874 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 [quote name='Zyrithe' timestamp='1343925908' post='5995379'] Also, how do most people find crazy cool artworks for most of their monsters...it's awesome [/quote] As for the artwork, just search Tiamat on Deviantart, I found it there. Genzoman, the person who did this awesome artwork, has several others which are good for monsters in case you and/or others need pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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