Drios Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 [center][img]http://i.imgur.com/s0Nw9.jpg[/img] [color=#40e0d0]1 Tuner monster+ 1 or more non-Tuner monsters Once per turn when your opponent Normal Summons or Special Summons a monster with an ATK of 1500 or less you can pay 800 Life Points to negate the summon of that monster and destroy it.[/color][/center] Fine I changed it .-. [center][color=#daa520]...:::G_S:::...[/color][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artard Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 holy geez!! a little broken don't you think for a level 5?? it was one thing to negate to negate the summon (which is still broken), but when your making them not summon at all for the rest of the turn.....are you nutz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drios Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 im not nutz im just anti Rabbit/Tour Guide so i try to rock a virus card in every deck as for the card yeah people have bottomless and fiendish chain this wont be a problem not one bit...Anti Meta Dragon Chaos Virus Forever!!! [center][color=#daa520]...:::G_S:::...[/color][/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durandamon Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 No. Just not. Even with BTH and Chain this is still broken as f*ck. Ditch the last sentence and add a cost for the first, and u have a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artard Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 I agree with you Hero, the thing is way to broken as is and probably would never be approved at any point by konami if asked, unless a cost is added that would balance it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drios Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 konami no make balanced cards anyway if they did we would never have rabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artard Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 [quote name='Drios' timestamp='1343860035' post='5994830'] konami no make balanced cards anyway if they did we would never have rabbit [/quote] their balance for it is its banishing when used and destroying the monsters at end phase. then they took away the Priority ruling and rabbit just gets screwed by that when Compulse and Bottomless is used against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drios Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 konami no balanced .-. if they was POG would have a cost and it wouldnt need to be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artard Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 [quote name='Drios' timestamp='1343860791' post='5994838'] konami no balanced .-. if they was POG would have a cost and it wouldnt need to be banned [/quote] POG is a really old card, and i'm sure they weren't thinking like they are now. There weren't many big costs back then, thats why POG didnt have one nor COH and both got banned for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drios Posted August 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 you and your spam posting your like all over RC lololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durandamon Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 [quote name='Drios' timestamp='1343864689' post='5994885'] you and your spam posting your like all over RC lololol [/quote] Dude, cut it out. He is f*cking trying to help you. If you really want to keep this card, I can suggest this effect: 1 Tuner monster+ 1 or more non-Tuner LIGHT monsters Once per turn when your opponent Normal Summons or Special Summons a monster with an ATK of 1500 or less you can discard 1 card: negate the summon of that monster and destroy it. 800 Life Points isn't a real cost, since Life Points don't matter at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suibon Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 [center]To all you people saying this is broken:[/center] [center]King Tiger Wanghu.[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drios Posted August 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 [quote name='Disposable Hero' timestamp='1343866381' post='5994901'] Dude, cut it out. He is f*cking trying to help you. If you really want to keep this card, I can suggest this effect: 1 Tuner monster+ 1 or more non-Tuner LIGHT monsters Once per turn when your opponent Normal Summons or Special Summons a monster with an ATK of 1500 or less you can discard 1 card: negate the summon of that monster and destroy it. 800 Life Points isn't a real cost, since Life Points don't matter at all. [/quote] Royal Oppression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durandamon Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 [quote name='Suibon' timestamp='1343867210' post='5994914'] [center]To all you people saying this is broken:[/center] [center]King Tiger Wanghu.[/center] [/quote] Oh come on, another one? This is WAAAAY more broken than Wanghu. Why? Wanghu doesn't negate the Summoning at all, so effects that activate then or when the card is sent to grave STILL APPLY. This card negates the summoning, so it's like the monster never got to the field. [quote name='Drios' timestamp='1343867835' post='5994921'] Royal Oppression [/quote] You are either a troll or a noob. That's why Royal Oppresion is F*CKING banned. Stop comparing your card to banned cards like POG or Royal Oppression. Those cards were old, the game didn't have many special summoning. Now, however, that card is a threat to any deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suibon Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 [quote name='Disposable Hero' timestamp='1343868006' post='5994924'] Oh come on, another one? This is WAAAAY more broken than Wanghu. Why? Wanghu doesn't negate the Summoning at all, so effects that activate then or when the card is sent to grave STILL APPLY. This card negates the summoning, so it's like the monster never got to the field. [/quote] [center]And how many Grave-bound effects are actually cut off by this card that won't be cut off by Wanghu? Sangan -- the Dark Mimics -- Card Trooper -- and then?[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drios Posted August 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 yeah and in a few years kuriboh will be banned cuz of this ever changing game ty hero for proving my point.. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durandamon Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 [quote name='Suibon' timestamp='1343869027' post='5994940'] [center]And how many Grave-bound effects are actually cut off by this card that won't be cut off by Wanghu? Sangan -- the Dark Mimics -- Card Trooper -- and then?[/center] [/quote] Black Salvo, Batteryman AAA, the Crashbugs, Cosmic Compass, Debaran/Sheratan, Diva, Undine, Junk Warrior, and every effect that activates when the monster is Normal Summoned. Oh, that means Tour Guide too, and Marauding. This card negates all of those, and effects don't activate. Okay, lord of card games? [quote name='Drios' timestamp='1343869832' post='5994952'] yeah and in a few years kuriboh will be banned cuz of this ever changing game ty hero for proving my point.. >_> [/quote] You are welcome. I...guess? What point was that again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drios Posted August 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 fiendish chain bottomless TT the three solemns dem hero beat gemini sparks compulsory and lets not forget about the 2300+ monsters that can special summon out the button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suibon Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 [quote name='Disposable Hero' timestamp='1343869849' post='5994953'] Black Salvo, Batteryman AAA, the Crashbugs, Cosmic Compass, Debaran/Sheratan, Diva, Undine, Junk Warrior, and every effect that activates when the monster is Normal Summoned. Oh, that means Tour Guide too, and Marauding. This card negates all of those, and effects don't activate. Okay, lord of card games? [/quote] [center]Which would more or less be the case with Wanghu, without the negation, as Diva, Junk Synchron (Warrior?), Black Salvo, etc. won't summon anything higher than 1500 ATK anyway. But I thought you meant Grave-bound effects. Meh.[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 I'm not sure why an easy as f*** to make synchro that's backed by dragon support and can stop your opponent from playing ygo is balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durandamon Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 [quote name='βyakk' timestamp='1343870977' post='5994965'] I'm not sure why an easy as f*** to make synchro that's backed by dragon support and can stop your opponent from playing ygo is balanced. [/quote] Abandon thread, this one doesn't understand -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3lly N3rd Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 20+ posts for this o.o it just needs a better cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 Change the cost, and you have a decent card. Change it from an 800 LP cost to [b]Discard one card. [/b] Makes it all the more balanced. And an actual good card alongside Mr. Catastor over there, who is currently laughing at the brokenness of this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG_For_Eternity Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 [quote name='Iwasawa' timestamp='1343908851' post='5995259'] Change the cost, and you have a decent card. Change it from an 800 LP cost to [b]Discard one card. [/b] Makes it all the more balanced. And an actual good card alongside Mr. Catastor over there, who is currently laughing at the brokenness of this card. [/quote] How about making it a "Once Per Turn" + Discard one card? Seems better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 I thought it already had a OncePerTurn clause, my bad. Add a Once per turn clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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