Miror B Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111020044148/yugioh/images/thumb/c/c7/MindCrushSDGU-EN-C-1E.jpg/300px-MindCrushSDGU-EN-C-1E.jpg[/img] Because I flipped it G2 on Chain Burn as a last resort at lolcals and hit 2 Barrel Behind the Doors. I won that match 2-0 btw. DWs = yus Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Crazy awesome card that you don't appreciate until you run it in a standard Trap lineup. Without any kind of skill involved, it screws up Pot of Duality, Salvage, RotA, Smoke Signal, Emergency Call, Seal of Convocation, Eclipse Wyvern, Wind-Up Factory, Sangan, Hanzo, Stratos, Seahorsemen, Abysspike, Abyssturge, Centipede, Zektkaliber, Gearframe, Gishki, Gadgets, Geargia, and even Dark World (by hitting Gates, or by following up against Dragged Down), and you can hit more than 1 copy at a time, plus it's chainable, plus you get to see your opponent's hand. And if you're good at making reads it becomes godly. Oh, Pegasus knows you have Rekindling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='newhat' timestamp='1344146413' post='5997881'] plus you get to see your opponent's hand. [/quote] No you don't. So long as it can be confirmed the opponent doesn't have the specified card in their hand, they don't have to reveal it. Furthermore, if there isn't some kind of judge or official third party around, then all the opponent has to do is flash their hand to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='Dementuo' timestamp='1344153120' post='5997923'] No you don't. So long as it can be confirmed the opponent doesn't have the specified card in their hand, they don't have to reveal it. Furthermore, if there isn't some kind of judge or official third party around, then all the opponent has to do is flash their hand to you. [/quote] They could easily have multiples, so unless all copies are visibly present elsewhere, you must prove it by showing your hand. I remember one time I used this on my friend by guessing. "Blue Eyes?" "Alright I have it, so now what?" "You have to discard it. *discards* "All of them." *he discards another* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted August 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='Dementuo' timestamp='1344153120' post='5997923'] No you don't. So long as it can be confirmed the opponent doesn't have the specified card in their hand, they don't have to reveal it. Furthermore, if there isn't some kind of judge or official third party around, then all the opponent has to do is flash their hand to you. [/quote] Iirc unless you can verify where all copies of the card are you HAVE to show your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 You don't necessarily have to show your hand. For instance, if an opponent calls Dark Hole, and your hand has no Spells in it, then all you have to do is flash your hand because your opponent can confirm that your hand has no Spells in it, thereby also confirming you don't have Dark Hole. If you DO have a spell in it, then you can show those spells and flash the rest. To be technical, you never [i]have[/i] to show your hand unless there was absolutely no way to confirm that you didn't have any other copies in your hand. For example. Every time someone flips Mind Crush on me on DN and calls a spell/trap, then I'll set all the monsters in my hand and reveal the other Spells/Traps in my hand, because, by DN's system, it's impossible to set spells/traps in the monster zones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='Dementuo' timestamp='1344197351' post='5998200'] You don't necessarily have to show your hand. For instance, if an opponent calls Dark Hole, and your hand has no Spells in it, then all you have to do is flash your hand because your opponent can confirm that your hand has no Spells in it, thereby also confirming you don't have Dark Hole. If you DO have a spell in it, then you can show those spells and flash the rest. To be technical, you never [i]have[/i] to show your hand unless there was absolutely no way to confirm that you didn't have any other copies in your hand. For example. Every time someone flips Mind Crush on me on DN and calls a spell/trap, then I'll set all the monsters in my hand and reveal the other Spells/Traps in my hand, because, by DN's system, it's impossible to set spells/traps in the monster zones. [/quote] You do have to show your opponent your entire hand, and that's because your opponent can always, ALWAYS say they didn't see the cards that you showed them, unless they have full view of your hand as required by them, though within the restraints stalling allows. What you said is a common rule that people make up amongst each other, but it's not actually true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 You have to show your hand with this. That is absolute fact. Even if you only run 1 copy of the card. Most people will just like reveal it really quick, but in actuality you get to see the entire hand regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 "Barrel Behind the Door" Wut? It's a good card in DWs, I just find that more than 1 of these will just clog way too much and there are better cards than it. That said, I love this thing way too much to ever cut every copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 ^Well, look who's back. ^ Not as cool with Dustshoot gone, but still good if you can side it/know what the opponent runs. [quote name='Grapha Demon Lord of Sexy' timestamp='1344129793' post='5997680'] Because I flipped it G2 on Chain Burn as a last resort at lolcals and hit 2 Barrel Behind the Doors. [/quote] Barrel Behind the Door? Was player 2 running them to bounce the self burn from Fairy Wind? Why? The extra damage isn't worth it if the card spends the other 99% of the time being dead. EDIT: If I remember, Fraz mentioned 1-2 years ago that you don't have to know the card's name. You can just say "that glowing dragon that banishes when it attacks" and Evilfusion has to discard his Galaxy-Eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted August 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 Barrel Behind the Door, Secret Barrel, I've never played Chain Burn okay It's the one that does 200 for each of your cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1344177200' post='5998005'] They could easily have multiples, so unless all copies are visibly present elsewhere, you must prove it by showing your hand. I remember one time I used this on my friend by guessing. "Blue Eyes?" "Alright I have it, so now what?" "You have to discard it. *discards* "All of them." *he discards another* [/quote] this pretty much proves that you DO HAVE to see your opponent's hand. [size=1]after guessing.[/size] [size=1][size=4]yugi in this card would've made the picture look a lot better >.>[/size][/size] [size=1][size=4]OT: darkworlds like this card. basically because you get to see your opp's hand. funny thing is, there's a better card than this, and it's called dragged down into--[/size][/size] [size=1][size=4]oh, people are already using that.[/size][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 Unless all 3 copies of a card are public knowledge, you have to check their hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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