jabber2033 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1345170989' post='6008760'] At least the game won't be decided by who opens with Veiler or C now... [/quote] Agreed. I hated having to main 3 Veiler. It also looks like we'll have a more varied meta as well, which is always a plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizarus Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='jabber2033' timestamp='1345172236' post='6008781'] Agreed. I hated having to main 3 Veiler. It also looks like we'll have a more varied meta as well, which is always a plus. [/quote] DW > Heroes > Rabbit > everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guuu1234 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Tele-DAD 2.0? With a focus on control over spam spam spam win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='guuu1234' timestamp='1345175037' post='6008830'] Tele-DAD 2.0? With a focus on control over spam spam spam win? [/quote] http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/288302-tele-dad-20/ I'm actually optimistic, for the first time in a long while. yay~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Dark Worlds untouched! My deck's still intact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 So, TGU and Tengu both have been added to the list while still being TCG only. *hinthint R&D* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guuu1234 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1345175375' post='6008837'] http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/288302-tele-dad-20/ I'm actually optimistic, for the first time in a long while. yay~ [/quote] I think I'm in love[quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1345175375' post='6008837'] http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/288302-tele-dad-20/ I'm actually optimistic, for the first time in a long while. yay~ [/quote] I think I'm in love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Welche Alt Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1345176000' post='6008844'] So, TGU and Tengu both have been added to the list while still being TCG only. *hinthint R&D* [/quote] And yet Tardy Orc sees no play at all. I do not see the point. Yes certain TCG exclusives are powerful but others disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Le Dolan' timestamp='1345176640' post='6008857'] And yet Tardy Orc sees no play at all. I do not see the point. Yes certain TCG exclusives are powerful but others disappoint. [/quote] What the hell are you saying? Powerful cards are banned, weak ones are not... That's the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Le Dolan' timestamp='1345176640' post='6008857'] And yet Tardy Orc sees no play at all. I do not see the point. Yes certain TCG exclusives are powerful but others disappoint. [/quote] So you're saying that because non-broken TCG exclusives exist, we should give them slack for making those God awful cards? Edit: Also, the big problem was that they thought both were good for the game when they designed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Welche Alt Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 There is no need for cursing! I take quite a bit of offense to that and frankly I demand an apology. I may have misinterpreted his post as an attack on the R&D department for creating cards that are too strong. I am saying that two cards out of all of them that are too strong is not a bad deal. Konami in Japan have also made cards too strong. Why not barrate them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 We should really stop hating on TCG exclusives as comparatively. It's not like they're the only broken cards to have been put in the game. Anyway, happy about the list actually, it opens up so many different deck ideas, I really do like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 'Ey, this doesn't affect Sams at all. Crushes 4 different Dragon builds though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shark_ Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Meh, doesn't seem the same list at all, just because it has both Future Fusion and Brionac banned it doesn't mean it is the same list. Did someone translate the full scans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='newhat' timestamp='1345178569' post='6008888'] 'Ey, this doesn't affect Sams at all. Crushes 4 different Dragon builds though. [/quote] >Implying Chaos Dragons are crushed I can only think of 3 others off the top of my head, so yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Shark_' timestamp='1345178935' post='6008896'] Meh, doesn't seem the same list at all, just because it has both Future Fusion and Brionac banned it doesn't mean it is the same list. Did someone translate the full scans? [/quote]As far as I can tell, NeoArk did. It's still the same, there's no reason to doubt this at all. [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1345179005' post='6008898'] I can only think of 3 others off the top of my head, so yeah. [/quote]But I can. Though they are all basically different morphs of Disaster... which are all basically dead now. Chaos Dragons aren't dead, no, but they're as hit as any of the other decks on this list. They weren't murdered, but their consistency was jeopardized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1345179548' post='6008904'] Chaos Dragons aren't dead, no, but they're as hit as any of the other decks on this list. They weren't murdered, but their consistency was jeopardized. [/quote] They lose 3-4 cards depending on the build, unless I'm missing something. Reasoning is back up to 2, which seems like it'd be cool for the deck, in my opinion. There's also Foolish Burial. I guess, to help a bit more. So, that's 2 to 3 out of 3 to 4 cards. At that, there's lots of stuff that came UP on the list that supports DARK, at least, and could prove interesting. I don't know too much about the deck, admittedly, but doesn't seem like they got hit too badly at all. Also, counting variants of a deck is stupid. That's like me going "OH NO ALL FABLED VARIANTS GOT HIT" over Zenmaity to 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1345179968' post='6008912'] They lose 3-4 cards depending on the build, unless I'm missing something. Reasoning is back up to 2, which seems like it'd be cool for the deck, in my opinion. There's also Foolish Burial. I guess, to help a bit more. So, that's 2 to 3 out of 3 to 4 cards. At that, there's lots of stuff that came UP on the list that supports DARK, at least, and could prove interesting. I don't know too much about the deck, admittedly, but doesn't seem like they got hit too badly at all. Also, counting variants of a deck is stupid. That's like me going "OH NO ALL FABLED VARIANTS GOT HIT" over Zenmaity to 1. [/quote]Foolish instead of FuFu, Trag instead of anything. You can't really count the loss based on statistics. The only real number that needs attention is 1. You only have one REDMD, which is a lot easier to counter than 2. Maybe game 1 stays about the same, but I'm betting Chaos Dragons will have a much harder time dealing with most side decked cards game 2 and 3. Not to mention there's 1-2 less cards to banish Eclipse Wyvern from the Graveyard depending on how many Sorcs one ran.. I mean, that's probably not going to mean much, prob just run another Darkflare, but a level 6 is a lot more abusable in the deck than a level 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-Psi Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 I might just put back together my tuningware deck if debris @ 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 The List was pretty fair. I think dragonfly at 2 and centi ant 1 with 3 hornets would have been better imo. but Konami does what they feel. I made Gishki's and after a 1 week of topping the Gustakrakken gets hit cause of loop. Still hieratics in giski are not bad. Heroes got lucky imo. loosing 3 cards from the otk. more so only loosing 2 and only really 1 card if it wasn't the otk version. I think next format will start off super diverse, but then come march it will be like 3-4 decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 This list is on Shriek so it is official. Me gusta. Playing Heroes and stall burn next format. Also I might revive the old Absolute Zero builds but with Mask Changes in. Hmm... Oh and I also managed to trade my Brionac for an ultimate Shi En. Epic win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 So...it's the list we've been predicting for weeks? Sure, whatever. Not happy, since it's really not a skill-based format, but meh. Debris at 2 and Spore at 1 will be interesting. As will Earth at 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Oh good, the list I have been testing towards. I'm happy with it already, and although annoyed about no BLS being banned, we can't expect everything to get done. Now, to fill the vacant spot of one duality in all my decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Althemia Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 One of the things I'm looking forward to most from this list is the fact that Grapha's going to be writing more articles for Konami. Lol. Welp. Time for me to pick up a new deck now that Hieratics are basically meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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