宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 If you are a person who likes to review cards based on the Picture, Name, Effect and overall coolness of it, I suggest you look away now. Thank you. [url="http://yugico.com/user/29408-Toyo-tan/card/27936-Drug-induced_Cards/107673-Gemini_Single_Call"][img]http://yugico.com/customcard/107673.jpg[/img][/url] So, first things first, I apologize for the caps in the title. It was a shameless trick I had to pull to grab your attention, because otherwise this thread will be ignored. Ignored I tell you. With that out of the way, I can now talk about my creation. It can bring back the ancient Warrior/Gemini deck utilizing Evocator Chevalier and Phoenix Gearfried in my point of view. But the most important thing I want to tell you is to view this not as a card, but as a concept. As in, what kind of influence would a card such as this have on the current metagame as we know it. Will it tilt the balance to the point it has to be Banned/Limited? Or will it just fade into obscurity due to the limited use it has? So, there's my explanation on this card. Feel free to praise it as if it was the Second Coming or bash it as if it was Batman and Robin. (I'm aware experimental cards such as this would be better posted in AoC, but AoC is basically a wretched hive of scum and villainy. And WC is just a ginormous desert of absolute nothingess, so it would just be a major waste of time to post this there.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Alda Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 It's a nice, simple card, but it's probably not going to make Geminis top-tier. They take 2 turns to get their effects; an Xyz (damn them!) can come out swinging on its first turn with clever playing. I'm not that familiar with Gemini support; there aren't any cards that speed them up, are there? If there aren't, this probably won't improve the sorry state of Geminis in the current meta. This card is a staple that every Gemini deck should have, but the cards it supports are still too slow for the top tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Giving E-Heroes 3 more search cards is a bad idea. They are already a top tier deck and this could make them god tier. I can see how this would be a somewhat positive thing for other gemini decks, but honestly search cards like this never usually lead in a good direction (ex: Reinforcement of the Army) and I can see this going down the same past. To avoid a problem I say make it level 3 and lower because with that, it could still help gemini decks, but you don't give HEROs another search card to their reservoir. HEROes are still one of the best decks despite losing 1 Duality and 1 Emergency Call and this card essentially puts them right back where they started making them way better than most decks in the current format. So all in all, if you want this to benefit gemini decks but not aid HERO become a god deck, make it level 3 or lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Alda Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 [quote name='.Leo' timestamp='1346764169' post='6019010'] So all in all, if you want this to benefit gemini decks but not aid HERO become a god deck, make it level 3 or lower. [/quote] There's one big problem with that idea; there's only [i]three[/i] Level 3 or lower Gemini Monsters. "Magical Reflect Slime" and "Dawnbreak Gardna" are Level 3, and Gemini Soldier" is Level 2. There are 21 Level 4 or lower Geminis, including the E-Heroes. Trying to make sure E-Heroes can't abuse it is a good thing, but nerfing it to Level 3 makes the card worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 [quote name='Stan Alda' timestamp='1346765820' post='6019017'] There's one big problem with that idea; there's only [i]three[/i] Level 3 or lower Gemini Monsters. "Magical Reflect Slime" and "Dawnbreak Gardna" are Level 3, and Gemini Soldier" is Level 2. There are 21 Level 4 or lower Geminis, including the E-Heroes. Trying to make sure E-Heroes can't abuse it is a good thing, but nerfing it to Level 3 makes the card worthless. [/quote] Wow, didn't realize the low amount of level 3 or lower. Shows my lack of knowledge on gemini monsters . Honestly then, I don't see how we can make it support geminis, but not make HEROs amazing. An attribute restriction might work but that would be weird in my honest opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Alda Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 [quote name='.Leo' timestamp='1346766096' post='6019020'] Wow, didn't realize the low amount of level 3 or lower. Shows my lack of knowledge on gemini monsters . Honestly then, I don't see how we can make it support geminis, but not make HEROs amazing. An attribute restriction might work but that would be weird in my honest opinion. [/quote] Geminis aren't too numerous overall, so most kinds of nerfing would really hurt this card. There probably is [i]some[/i] way to keep E-Heroes from abusing it, but I can't think of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 [quote name='Stan Alda' timestamp='1346766281' post='6019023'] Geminis aren't too numerous overall, so most kinds of nerfing would really hurt this card. There probably is [i]some[/i] way to keep E-Heroes from abusing it, but I can't think of one. [/quote] One way I cant think of, like Leo said, is an attribute restriction. But it ends up sounding just... Weird. Changing the effect to "Add 1 Level 4 or Lower Non-LIGHT Gemini Monster" stops it from being abusable on HEROes, but it just sounds a bit off, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Alda Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 [quote name='★Toyo-tan★' timestamp='1346766748' post='6019026'] One way I cant think of, like Leo said, is an attribute restriction. But it ends up sounding just... Weird. Changing the effect to "Add 1 Level 4 or Lower Non-LIGHT Gemini Monster" stops it from being abusable on HEROes, but it just sounds a bit off, don't you think? [/quote] Yeah, it doesn't really roll off the tongue. Sorry Toyo, but I've got nothing in the way of further advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 The answer is so simple u guys! "Add 1 Level 4 or lower Gemini Monster with 1800 ATK or less from your Deck to your hand." Problem with HEROES has been averted. Sure it dodges a few other guys such as the 1900 ATK Chaveleir and Endymion but it would speed up the deck since you still have RotA for Chevelair anyway giving you a total of 4 searchers in a Gemini Solid Deck....which frankly should be more than enough to sustain a slightly faster game play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 [quote name='Chance Furlong' timestamp='1346767021' post='6019028'] The answer is so simple u guys! "Add 1 Level 4 or lower Gemini Monster with 1800 ATK or less from your Deck to your hand." Problem with HEROES has been averted. [/quote] This change makes the card dodge Evocator Chevalier, which in my view, is the best Level 4 Gemini aside from Alius. So, it won't work since it doesn't add what is one of the Warrior Gemini deck's main card. [s]BTW, You're technically breaking the Advanced Clause since you only have 33 words. I counted.[/s] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Sry for having a restroom emergency >_<.... Anyways, edited, and even then by making the ATK 1800 or less it makes it a more viable card for a gemeni heavy deck by being a solid engine in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Added a second effect to the card in order to further support Geminis. Any further comments/suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Gemi.dek is now quite consistent. The fact that it can add either or when you control a Gemini monster is quite amazing, and could lead to another form of Gem-Knight Gemi.dek since they'll be able to trigger their effects a little more easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Bump. (Read: I am an attention w*ore who wont be satisfied until I get 1000 replies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathin Dragon Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 correct me if im wrong because im just now reading this whole thing....but the card clearly states gemini in the ocg why in the world would this support e-heroes?correct me if im wrong because im just now reading this whole thing....but the card clearly states gemini in the ocg why in the world would this support e-heroes?ignore the double post sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Because of HERO Beat. A HERO Deck focusing on using E-HERO Neos Alius for either Gemini Spark or Super Polymerization. ATM, It already has 3 Different Searchers -E - Emergency Call, E-HERO Stratos and Reinforcement of The Army. Making this card real would add even more consistency to an already consistent deck and therefore make the deck Tier 0/Broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Ze last bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iriq Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 I see you changed it now so that you cant use it for neos anymore; the effect is much better now; imo i wish they would expand on geminis a bit more 10/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Iriq, you're breaking the Advanced Clause. Bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iriq Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 [quote name='★Toyo-tan★' timestamp='1347068352' post='6021165'] Iriq, you're breaking the Advanced Clause. Bump. [/quote] Huh? How so? I gave my review. After all of your fixes, I believe it deserves a 10/10. A 10/10 imo is self-explantory, it really shouldnt need an elaborate explanation. Is it against the rules to state a card is perfect? If it was 9/10 or less(which means it has flaws according to the person giving the review), I would of stated those flaws resulting in a lengthier reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 That's the point of advanced clause, to stop replies like that. If you don't have a constructive criticsm, don't post anything. Even if it's helpful, if it's less than 45 words, you're still breaking the advanced clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iriq Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Oh ok, I didnt see anywhere in the advanced clause about "constructive criticism only" in either of the 4 rules. My bad then. But imo, that's sort of a messed up rule. Then how/when do you know if you deserve a 10/10 if you're not allowed to post it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 You are allowed to post replies like that, just add more content in it. Like maybe; How it will be used, which decks can benefit from the card, how the metagame will be affected if such a card is released, what actually makes it so good and a lot of other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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