Gorange Monarch Of The Dark World! [Xyz] [Updated!]

[Sergio Dark World General]

As Everyone Knows,Im a Dark World Fanboy[Deal With It], And Honestly I never actually liked Xyz's but I decided Dark World with the SP's it has Xyz can be ovbiously putten to good use.
So there it is.

[Updated]
-Changed effects to make it better, because Before it was a Kuriboh.


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2 Level 8 monsters
You can Xyz Summon this card using your Banished monsters as Xyz Material. You can activate this effect of “Gorange, Monarch of Dark World”, only once per duel.Once per turn you can discard one card from your hand(this is treated as your opponent's effect.)

Credit: Special Thanks to Dark Plant - Venom for the "You can Xyz Summon this card using your Banished monsters as Xyz Material. You can activate this effect of “Gorange, Monarch of Dark World” Effect.

[~British Soul~]

I really don't like this card to be quite honest. Its effect is pretty much similar to Dark World Dealings and I don't have to use any resources to use it even though the opponent benefits from that card too, whereas this card only benefits you for a similar effect. The only thing that turns me off is the amount of materials required to use it.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

What?

Okay, so well, I've got one word for you: [b]No[/b]. This is terrible card design, and I'm not going to be soft or lovely or anything 'cause this card is probably the worst sort you see in RC. You've probably gotta fix the whole design, everything.

See, problem is, this thing wouldn't be RAN in Dark Worlds. Why? Because they don't ever summon 3 Level 4 monsters. They slowly rip apart the opponent's strategy with hand rape while maintaining a firm field advantage with Grapha a.k.a. the only monster they ever keep on the field. Maybe Trance Archfiend too, but that's not the point.

The only Level 4 monsters you should be running in DWs are Trance Archfiend and Beiige. Trance Archfiend literally says "DON'T USE ME AS XYZ MATERIAL, HAVE THE OPP KILL ME" all over it. Beiige's real effect is "When this card is discarded by a card effect: Return this card to your hand, and Special Summon 1 "Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World" from your Graveyard." In other words, you would never summon this in any currently-used build.

Then, is this worth ripping that build apart and remodeling it to fit this in? No. No f***ing no. They already have draw power in the forms of Gate and Dragged Down. Both act amazing, and they don't allow this thing to even speak before it's crushed between Sengenjin and Illumiknight in the useless-rare-card-folder. Speaking of which, Illuminight has pretty much the same effs as this, only differences being the discard-part and the Attribute. Which, frankly, still make this nothing compared to Shock Master or Evilswarm Ouroboros. Given no decks run Illumiknight, no decks would run this either.

Kay, so enough with bashing this card. Now let's move onto the fixing-it part, and...

...Except, no, wait, I can't really fix it while keeping its current form because it's so wrong all over the place. I'd have to wreck the whole thing apart in order to make it usable.

Fun fact: Support cards are useless except in the deck it's meant to support. A good support card is ran in that single deck. W Nebula Meteor is an example.

A bad support card isn't ran in anything. Maybe you should go take a look at Ghibli or something like that to get a good idea. It's like a Nintendo DS that doesn't have the places to put softwares in - its only use is nonexistant. That's what this is.

The reason why this is so terrible is simple: This is anti-synergy with the way the Dark World deck moves. If you're supporting DWs, this has to be summonable in it. And its eff needs to cover up something they don't have yet.

So, first change its summoning conditions. Make it something BWs can afford. Namely, "2x Level 8 Monsters" or something to that extent. Oh, and boost its ATK a little to fit that. Maybe 3000-ish. DEF doesn't matter, but maybe that should be 3000 too just because. That's your choice. Doesn't really matter, though, given with Gate it gets over everything anyways.

Then, think about some eff that would allow the Dark World deck’s weaknesses to be covered. Think from experience. DW’s weakness is simple: Banishing. If Grapha is Banished, and you can’t retrieve it via Trance Archfiend, you lose. The deck is reliant on that single card, no objections.

Does the DW deck need more draw power? Prolly no. At least, I’ve never felt I need to draw more while using the deck. Field Advantage power, then? Grapha’s packed with that already, so get that thought out’ya head.

Seems like the only weakness DWs need covered up is Banishing, right?

...So go derp with it.

Gorange, Monarch of Dark World
RANK 8 DARK Fiend-Type Xyz Effect
2x Level 8 DARK Monsters
You can Xyz Summon this card using your Banished monsters as Xyz Material. You can activate this effect of “Gorange, Monarch of Dark World”, only once per duel. Once per turn: detach 2 Xyz Materials from this card to target 1 of your Banished DARK monsters; return it to your Deck.
[3000/3000]

I made the last part “Deck” because “Graveyard” would make it so damn overpowered the sky would fall apart into a jagged shower of trollfaces and an army of Edward Khils would thunder throughout the globe, slaughtering everything in its path of doom. Actually, it’s already overpowered enough to make Edward Khil sing a song about America and be censored and – wait, he already did that.

You've probably realized one gigantic problem by now. This isn’t your card anymore. It’s something I made now anew. But why did that happen? Again, as simple as hell: Your original card had NONE of the aspects of a good Dark World support card. That’s it. This is what happens to stuff like that.

Hope you do better next time, and that I actually helped you. Not fixing the card, but getting a hold of what a good support card is. Okay, so you might be annoyed by how I killed everything you had with your card, but try to look through my comments with a calm mind, kay? You’ll get what I mean, and what I mean is right. So cya for now, and hope you improve. You probably'll anyways, it's fine.

[Sergio Dark World General]

[quote name='Darkplant - VENOM' timestamp='1347455693' post='6023798']
What?

Okay, so well, I've got one word for you: [b]No[/b]. This is terrible card design, and I'm not going to be soft or lovely or anything 'cause this card is probably the worst sort you see in RC. You've probably gotta fix the whole design, everything.

See, problem is, this thing wouldn't be RAN in Dark Worlds. Why? Because they don't ever summon 3 Level 4 monsters. They slowly rip apart the opponent's strategy with hand rape while maintaining a firm field advantage with Grapha a.k.a. the only monster they ever keep on the field. Maybe Trance Archfiend too, but that's not the point.

The only Level 4 monsters you should be running in DWs are Trance Archfiend and Beiige. Trance Archfiend literally says "DON'T USE ME AS XYZ MATERIAL, HAVE THE OPP KILL ME" all over it. Beiige's real effect is "When this card is discarded by a card effect: Return this card to your hand, and Special Summon 1 "Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World" from your Graveyard." In other words, you would never summon this in any currently-used build.

Then, is this worth ripping that build apart and remodeling it to fit this in? No. No f***ing no. They already have draw power in the forms of Gate and Dragged Down. Both act amazing, and they don't allow this thing to even speak before it's crushed between Sengenjin and Illumiknight in the useless-rare-card-folder. Speaking of which, Illuminight has pretty much the same effs as this, only differences being the discard-part and the Attribute. Which, frankly, still make this nothing compared to Shock Master or Evilswarm Ouroboros. Given no decks run Illumiknight, no decks would run this either.

Kay, so enough with bashing this card. Now let's move onto the fixing-it part, and...

...Except, no, wait, I can't really fix it while keeping its current form because it's so wrong all over the place. I'd have to wreck the whole thing apart in order to make it usable.

Fun fact: Support cards are useless except in the deck it's meant to support. A good support card is ran in that single deck. W Nebula Meteor is an example.

A bad support card isn't ran in anything. Maybe you should go take a look at Ghibli or something like that to get a good idea. It's like a Nintendo DS that doesn't have the places to put softwares in - its only use is nonexistant. That's what this is.

The reason why this is so terrible is simple: This is anti-synergy with the way the Dark World deck moves. If you're supporting DWs, this has to be summonable in it. And its eff needs to cover up something they don't have yet.

So, first change its summoning conditions. Make it something BWs can afford. Namely, "2x Level 8 Monsters" or something to that extent. Oh, and boost its ATK a little to fit that. Maybe 3000-ish. DEF doesn't matter, but maybe that should be 3000 too just because. That's your choice. Doesn't really matter, though, given with Gate it gets over everything anyways.

Then, think about some eff that would allow the Dark World deck’s weaknesses to be covered. Think from experience. DW’s weakness is simple: Banishing. If Grapha is Banished, and you can’t retrieve it via Trance Archfiend, you lose. The deck is reliant on that single card, no objections.

Does the DW deck need more draw power? Prolly no. At least, I’ve never felt I need to draw more while using the deck. Field Advantage power, then? Grapha’s packed with that already, so get that thought out’ya head.

Seems like the only weakness DWs need covered up is Banishing, right?

...So go derp with it.

Gorange, Monarch of Dark World
RANK 8 DARK Fiend-Type Xyz Effect
2x Level 8 DARK Monsters
You can Xyz Summon this card using your Banished monsters as Xyz Material. You can activate this effect of “Gorange, Monarch of Dark World”, only once per duel. Once per turn: detach 2 Xyz Materials from this card to target 1 of your Banished DARK monsters; return it to your Deck.
[3000/3000]

I made the last part “Deck” because “Graveyard” would make it so damn overpowered the sky would fall apart into a jagged shower of trollfaces and an army of Edward Khils would thunder throughout the globe, slaughtering everything in its path of doom. Actually, it’s already overpowered enough to make Edward Khil sing a song about America and be censored and – wait, he already did that.

You've probably realized one gigantic problem by now. This isn’t your card anymore. It’s something I made now anew. But why did that happen? Again, as simple as hell: Your original card had NONE of the aspects of a good Dark World support card. That’s it. This is what happens to stuff like that.

Hope you do better next time, and that I actually helped you. Not fixing the card, but getting a hold of what a good support card is. Okay, so you might be annoyed by how I killed everything you had with your card, but try to look through my comments with a calm mind, kay? You’ll get what I mean, and what I mean is right. So cya for now, and hope you improve. You probably'll anyways, it's fine.
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Thanks for the whole review, I appreciate it.
Im remaking the card with the idea of Xyz with banished cards[when I update I'll give you credit]
And Trying to think of an other effect.

[ihop]

The card is ridiculous, it punishes people for using their only outs to Grapha and brings them back to grave as well as having a usable effect. To be quite honest the only way you can balance it IMO is by giving it only negative effects because everyone will still want to do that just to bring banished Graphas back to grave.

[TheKaitoKid]

yeah, this is mega brokzors. It's bad in that it let's people revive their banished Grapha's for no cost whatsoever. Not to mention, it nets you a free discard AND it's an "opponent discard" at that? Yeah, this card isn't okay.

[Ghost_Image]

Kills the decks only weakness, and breaks the Xyz mechanic, and can basically be summoned for free. Add Allure into the deck, banish Grapha with Gates, because, who cares? It will eventually give you a free 3k beater under Gates for literally no cost. Not good card design. 4/10 for originality.

[ihop]

The idea of Xyz summoning with banished cards is good, I just feel Darkworlds are the wrong thing to do it with for reasons already stated and it shouldn't be anything over Rank 3.