Agro Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120928170607/yugioh/images/thumb/b/b4/LavalvalChain-DT07-EN-DUPR-DT.png/300px-LavalvalChain-DT07-EN-DUPR-DT.png[/img] Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 [quote name='Kabasaurus' timestamp='1349191380' post='6036383'] Should be banned.[/quote] More or less. Though, the whole logic of: "HURRR 1800 ATK WON'T LET IT SURVIVE THAT LONG", is a little idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderVolt Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Made from a Laval and a Gishki, secretly made for Gem-Knights. Helps slower deck reach that boss monster they need or sets up the graveyard for a variety of decks.Made from a Laval and a Gishki, secretly made for Gem-Knights. Helps slower deck reach that boss monster they need or sets up the graveyard for a variety of decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 If you are not using this card to make a degenerate combo you're not using this card at all. Summoner Monk + Armageddon Knight = Like, a bunch of stuff. Vayu and Sirocco, Mezuki and Oni, Hornet and Giga-Mantis, and of course an 1800 Gem-Turtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I'd look at what it's searching or stacking or dumping loooong before this,really. Edit: And the things getting it out like rabbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 There's no other card that can stack any card, and only 1 that can dump any card and that's limited and also a -1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 [quote name='Kabasaurus' timestamp='1349200616' post='6036492'] There's no other card that can stack any card, and only 1 that can dump any card and that's limited and also a -1. [/quote] Yeah,it's just that i havent seen a competitive card that's broken exclusively when it's dumped by this and isnt broken for other reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Plaguespreader Zombie is pretty good and also the card can dump cards needed as targets e.g. Debris Dragon targets like Dandylion and LIGHTS/DARKS for Chaos monsters. Anyway the dumping isn't really what makes it all that broken although it is a big factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 It's not what it does that should make it banned. It's what it has the potential to do. The basis of its effect is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1349203436' post='6036522'] It's not what it does that should make it banned. It's what it has the potential to do. The basis of its effect is insane. [/quote] imo it [i]should[/i] be a -1 to make and aneeds you to wait a turn for it's stack effect so your opponent can prepare for it,if something is wrong with that there's probably something wrong with what you're stacking or dumping with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 There's nothing inherently wrong with sending things to the graveyard. Ban Rekindling and this becomes fine (or less abusable, anyways). As for stacking to the top of the deck... well, it's certainly useful, but it's a -1 to be able to make a decent play next turn that your opponent now knows about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 [quote name='mido9' timestamp='1349206494' post='6036566'] imo it [i]should[/i] be a -1 to make and aneeds you to wait a turn for it's stack effect so your opponent can prepare for it,if something is wrong with that there's probably something wrong with what you're stacking or dumping with it. [/quote]Foolish is a -1 and there's a problem with it. And depending on the draw power your deck has, you don't have to wait a turn. [quote name='b0b3rt' timestamp='1349206642' post='6036570'] There's nothing inherently wrong with sending things to the graveyard. Ban Rekindling and this becomes fine (or less abusable, anyways). [/quote]People don't really use this for Rekindling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1349212250' post='6036638'] Foolish is a -1 and there's a problem with it. [/quote] I really blame the stuff like BLS or REDMD or inzektor hornet for foolish's brokeness,not foolish itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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