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[PrimeAceJohn]

Sorry for the title, barely anyone has viewed this so I tried looping people's minds into looking...


Have you even ever heard of a DARK/FIRE dragon deck?

I haven't...

So I made these two cards for decks people don't really use. Honestly, I am hopelessly in the process of building a real dark/fire dragon deck with Red Eyes Darkness Metal, Masked Dragon's, Dragonic Knight, all that. So if you have any suggestions, please give...

So PLEASE give me some feedback; bad and good.

I tried making as balanced as I can but its hard for decks that rarely use Fire/Dark decks...

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[size=6][u][b]The Doom Dragon of Flame (DDF)[/b][/u][/size]

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Type: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&"]Monster[/url][/b] Type I: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&st1=Effect&"]Effect[/url][/b] Monster Type: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&smt=Synchro&"]Synchro[/url][/b] Type II: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&st2=Dragon&"]Dragon[/url][/b] Attribute: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&sat=Dark&"]Dark[/url][/b] Level: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&sll=8&"]8[/url][/b] Attack: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&"]3000[/url][/b] Defence: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&"]2000[/url][/b]
[b]Card text[/b]
1 FIRE or DARK Tuner monster + 1 or more Dragon-Type monster(s)
This card is also treated as a FIRE-Type monster. Once per turn, you can remove 1 DARK or FIRE-Type monster in your graveyard from play to destroy 1 monster your opponent controls. During the End Phase of the turn you used this card's effect, add the destroyed monster to your opponent's hand and he/she gains Life Points equal to half the destroyed monster's ATK. This monster canot attack the turn it uses its effect. When this card is destroyed and sent to the graveyard, you can remove it from play and [size=3]3 other Dragon-Type monsters from your graveyard or hand to destroy all monsters on either side of the field.[/size]



[size=6][u][b]SUPREME DRAGON LORD OF DOOM (SDLD)[/b][/u][/size]


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Type: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&"]Monster[/url][/b] Type I: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&st1=Effect&"]Effect[/url][/b] Monster Type: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&smt=Synchro&"]Synchro[/url][/b] Type II: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&st2=Dragon&"]Dragon[/url][/b] Attribute: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&sat=Dark&"]Dark[/url][/b] Level: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&sll=11&"]11[/url][/b] Attack: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&"]4000[/url][/b] Defence: [b][url="http://yugico.com/yugioh-cards/search?sst=m&"]3000[/url][/b]
[b]Card text[/b]
1 DARK or FIRE Tuner + "The Doom Dragon of Flame"
This card is also treated as a FIRE monster. When this card is summoned, you must pay half of your Life Points. Only once per duel, you can destroy all cards on your opponent controls and he/she loses Life Points equal to the number of cards destroyed x500. Once per turn, you can activate one of the following effects:
●Remove from play 3 FIRE Dragon-Type monsters from your graveyard to inflict direct damage to your opponent equal to the total number of the three monsters combined x100.
●Remove from play 3 DARK Dragon-Type monsters to remove from play the top 2 cards of your opponent's deck.
When this card is destroyed, it is removed from play.
This card cannot attack the turn it uses its effect(s)

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[Sora1499]

Alright, let's give these guys a little look-see:

First Card: Broken, just because of its dying effect. With that sweet ATK, its also happens to be a pseudo-DAD. There's a reason why that card is at 1. I know the balancing clauses you put in, but the fact remains that this is major OTK food. The measly amount of LP your opponent will get doesn't really matter when they're 3000 LP short and they have a 3k beater breathing down their neck. Although, its not quite broken because your opponent gets the monster back, so they can combo and try to get rid of this card next turn. Except, if they do... They get a 1-sided dark hole. <brooooken!!!!>
Fixes: Get rid of the 1-sided dark hole effect. Please. After that its not a totally broken card, but I can see it being semi'd.

Second Card: My gawd. Even more broken. Half your LP doesn't matter too much when you can raigeki your opponent and inflict up to 3k damage to them. For its first ignition effect, I'm assuming you mean "level" when you say "number", and if so, I know exactly which 3 I'm banishing. Need a hint? Flame Dragon and his materials for 3200 free damage. On top of the about 2500+ damage your opponent already would have received. So that's almost 6000 damage just for summoning this card. Wow.
Fixes: Don't allow your opponent to receive any damage when the cards are destroyed with its effect. After that, its a level 10 material-specific synchro, so you deserve to (basically) win game if you summon this. Just not an insta-win.

[PrimeAceJohn]

Yeah, I knew something like that would get that kind of response...

Well, for the first card, I can agree that the last part with the Dark Hole effect but removing itself with 3 other dragons is pretty overpowered. Though, the drawback of destroying monster on both sides isn't so bad. I mean, its basically like activating dark hole, but with a drawback with itself and 3 other dragons, which I think is not bad. Because after DDF is removed, you can summon SDLD.

Though a MAJOR change I would do is give the drawback that 'This monster cannot attack the turn it uses its effect.'

And I don't know if you noticed, but if you activate DDF's effect per turn, by that time, you'll run out of all the Fire/Dark dragons in the grave and you won't be able to activate its second effect of destroying all monsters.

So you really have to take the chance whether which effect you want to use for him. But after I think about it, I think the 'This monster cannot attack the turn it uses its effect' would fit in nice since it's a heavy hitter that can attack directly after destroying a monster with its effect.

And if you think about it, its not as easy as summoning Red Dragon or Stardust; you need fire/dark dragons which can be pretty difficult. So the effect of trying hard to summon those should be a great monster with a great effect...


Now for SDLD, I can totally agree it can be way to overpowered...

But remember what I said about DDF, you can either use its effect to destroy monsters one by one, or you can use it to bomb the field...

And no matter whether you choose, after summoning SDLD, it will still be hard... Because after using DDF's effect, the fire/dark dragons will be already removed from play. The only one you can really use to inflict REAL damage, is when removing DDF. After that, you won't really have much to remove and inflict alot of damage...

So its really not so great when you think about it and it will be pretty hard to summon. AND remember, SDLD can't attack the turn it uses any of its effects (if you read the very last line of the effect), so the only time you inflict damage is the 'only once' effect...


But thanks SO much for the reply and being honest, and I'm terribly sorry for the long response....I know how you feel.....

[PrimeAceJohn]

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