Zazubat Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 So, I got totally owned by a deck like this, so made my own, it's not working out so well, so I wonder what I'm doing wrong. [IMG]http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w473/Zaziuma/v3mum.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w473/Zaziuma/OcEnB.png[/IMG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectralMaliceX Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 Wisel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted November 22, 2012 Report Share Posted November 22, 2012 The second build looks better. In both Extra Decks, I think you should be focused on 2-part Rank 4 Xyz Monsters such as Maestroke, Gem-Knight Pearl and Abyss Dweller. You don't need Level modifiers, nor cards that simply Special Summon other monsters from your hand. The only purpose of Geargiano is Gear Gigant's last effect; you don't need two of them. You don't really need Xyz Reborn or Spiritual Earth Art. Imperial Iron Wall is unnecessary and clashes with D-Prison. Machina Armored Unit is not useful outside of Gadgets. As for Machine Assembly Line, it's not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 [quote name='newhat' timestamp='1353623794' post='6075814'] The second build looks better. In both Extra Decks, I think you should be focused on 2-part Rank 4 Xyz Monsters such as Maestroke, Gem-Knight Pearl and Abyss Dweller. You don't need Level modifiers, nor cards that simply Special Summon other monsters from your hand. The only purpose of Geargiano is Gear Gigant's last effect; you don't need two of them. You don't really need Xyz Reborn or Spiritual Earth Art. Imperial Iron Wall is unnecessary and clashes with D-Prison. Machina Armored Unit is not useful outside of Gadgets. As for Machine Assembly Line, it's not necessary. [/quote]what cards should I add instead of those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 Go for 2nd build. I have never played with Machina Geargias so I might be wrong with some things, but I think that with the following suggestions the Deck should work better. (Mostly what newhat already mentioned) -1 Frontline -1 Assembly Line -1 Spiritual Earth -1 Inferno Reckless -1 Machina Armored Unit -1 Crashbug thing -1 Imperial Iron Wall (to Side) +1 Duality +2 Warning +1 Torrential +1 Iron Call +1 Bottomless +1 Compulsory/Fiendish Chain Thinking that you could -1 Ultimate Oferring as well, because without Gadgets you won't be swarming. Fiendish Chains can be replaced with Veiler for more monsters, but that's up to you. You can replace any of the Traps above with 2 Birdmans, along Triforces, a Black Rose and Scrap Archfiend: With Geargiaccelerator it is a free Summon and you can bounce a Gearframe back to your hand to Normal Summon it again. If you choose to do so, a single Genex Neutron wouldn't be bad, increasing your Monster Count to 19, more balanced in my opinion. Extra Deck: -1 Disigma -1 Silvermountain -1 Zenmaines -1 Gear Gigant (I don't think you will ever Summon 3 in a duel) -1 Shark Drake -1 Shark Drake Weiss +1 Blackship +1 Maestroke +1 Papilloperative +1 Daigusto Emeral +1 Gunman +1 Pearl What's the card to the right of Duality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KindredTether Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 This is my variant and its not bad, but probably not the best. (This is kinda old, I took out Papill [I think it was her?] and replaced them with Utopia) Honestly, Karakuri Geargia is better :/ Also Geargiano MK1 is just... No. [img]http://i.imgur.com/3TJk4.png[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 [quote name='Voltex' timestamp='1353655491' post='6076075'] Go for 2nd build. I have never played with Machina Geargias so I might be wrong with some things, but I think that with the following suggestions the Deck should work better. (Mostly what newhat already mentioned) -1 Frontline -1 Assembly Line -1 Spiritual Earth -1 Inferno Reckless -1 Machina Armored Unit -1 Crashbug thing -1 Imperial Iron Wall (to Side) +1 Duality +2 Warning +1 Torrential +1 Iron Call +1 Bottomless +1 Compulsory/Fiendish Chain Thinking that you could -1 Ultimate Oferring as well, because without Gadgets you won't be swarming. Fiendish Chains can be replaced with Veiler for more monsters, but that's up to you. You can replace any of the Traps above with 2 Birdmans, along Triforces, a Black Rose and Scrap Archfiend: With Geargiaccelerator it is a free Summon and you can bounce a Gearframe back to your hand to Normal Summon it again. If you choose to do so, a single Genex Neutron wouldn't be bad, increasing your Monster Count to 19, more balanced in my opinion. Extra Deck: -1 Disigma -1 Silvermountain -1 Zenmaines -1 Gear Gigant (I don't think you will ever Summon 3 in a duel) -1 Shark Drake -1 Shark Drake Weiss +1 Blackship +1 Maestroke +1 Papilloperative +1 Daigusto Emeral +1 Gunman +1 Pearl What's the card to the right of Duality? [/quote]I agree with some of your choices, but I don't agree with -1 Inferno Reckless and -1 -1 Machina Armored Unit since they are useful for summoning cards I need easily, and swarming for vylon. I don't want to - Ultimate, since it can get Xyzs pretty fast, and then I can use Gigant to get some of those back. I forgot to remove level 3 xyzs and such cause it was just a quick edit, so that's why those are there. I like to keep a lot of Gigants, in case I lose some, but I might remove one. I simply don't find Daigusto that useful, I have PoA in my deck, I find that more useful. Who is this gunman? I can't find him on DN. The card right of Duality is Resonance Device, it was more useful before i case I had the Mk cards, but it can still be use for Fortress. Alright, here's the new edit, with some of your choices, and some I like to keep: [IMG]http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w473/Zaziuma/boo.png[/IMG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 For the new build- -1 Spiritual Earth Art -3 Random Spell things except Iron Call -1 Ultimate Offering +1 Geargiarsenal (!) +1 Bottomless +1 Compulse +2 Solemn Warning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 [quote name='Kabbles' timestamp='1353667501' post='6076136'] For the new build- -1 Spiritual Earth Art -3 Random Spell things except Iron Call -1 Ultimate Offering +1 Geargiarsenal (!) +1 Bottomless +1 Compulse +2 Solemn Warning [/quote][quote name='Kabbles' timestamp='1353667501' post='6076136'] For the new build- -1 Spiritual Earth Art -3 Random Spell things except Iron Call -1 Ultimate Offering +1 Geargiarsenal (!) +1 Bottomless +1 Compulse +2 Solemn Warning [/quote]Yeah Spirital is pretty crap I realize, what "Random Spell things"? No I want ultimate, I use it in almost every deck, and it's really useful for a low cost. I don't know about Arsenal, it doesn't seem to be as usefull in my deck, but I still want to keep some around, but I don't need 3 of them. Solemn Warning, meh I got other traps that can take care of SS monsters. I don't know about compulse though, it seems not that useful as others, so I am not gonna keep 2. Here's the newest, don't mind the chat, just Gimmepie and I talking lol [IMG]http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w473/Zaziuma/supboy.png[/IMG] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 You can't play the Deck without 3 Arsenal, it's a beater and essentially lets you play 6 Armor. -1 Resonance Device +1 Arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 [quote name='Kabbles' timestamp='1353672415' post='6076151'] You can't play the Deck without 3 Arsenal, it's a beater and essentially lets you play 6 Armor. -1 Resonance Device +1 Arsenal [/quote]You realize that you can't have 6 of one card in the deck right? I am not taking out RD cause it makes it easy to summon a level 7 or 8 Xyz, or the other way around to a level 4. I still don't see the use for Arsenal, it really hasn't been handy, the only reason is to put Arsenal into the grave, other than that, I don't see the use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 He means that Arsenal gets your Armors faster, and you need your Armor fast. Resonance is totally unneeded because Geargias don't need rank 7/8 Xyzs to win. Also, I don't think I see Dark Hole, Heavy Storm, or Monster Reborn. Put those thingies in because they're all good and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted November 23, 2012 Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 [Gagaga] Gunman was renamed as Gagaga Cowboy. And I forgot the Spell staples that Pacmannexus just mentioned. But I don't know what are you willing to drop for them so I will just suggest a few changes for your Extra: -1 Thunder End: requires Level 8 Normal Monsters, which you don't have -1 Ophion: requires Verz/lswarm Monsters, and you don't have any +1 Cowboy +1 Emeral (from side): weaker Pot of Avarice, but faster; and you never know when single draw from it might be game-changing If Emeral still doesn't convince you, you could go for a Scrap Archfiend/Karakuri Burei for beating things that Triforce cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2012 [quote name='Voltex' timestamp='1353686935' post='6076237'] [Gagaga] Gunman was renamed as Gagaga Cowboy. And I forgot the Spell staples that Pacmannexus just mentioned. But I don't know what are you willing to drop for them so I will just suggest a few changes for your Extra: -1 Thunder End: requires Level 8 Normal Monsters, which you don't have -1 Ophion: requires Verz/lswarm Monsters, and you don't have any +1 Cowboy +1 Emeral (from side): weaker Pot of Avarice, but faster; and you never know when single draw from it might be game-changing If Emeral still doesn't convince you, you could go for a Scrap Archfiend/Karakuri Burei for beating things that Triforce cannot. [/quote]oh didn't see normal monsters, also it's not ophion, it's Ouro. I don't really see Emeral being useful, sorry but it isn't going in there, I will keep it as a side though. EDIT: My first match, didn't really have an opponent who could do much, but still managed to lose because of bad draws of high level monsters. Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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