Sora1499 Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 I'm going to be doing a new segment called Archetype Discussions where I want you to discuss different archetypes and decks. Today we'll be looking at Agro's favorite archetype: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&tbo=d&biw=320&bih=416&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=fire+fist+yugioh&oq=fire+fist+yugioh&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0i24.5388.7067.0.7290.7.5.0.2.2.2.260.782.2j1j2.5.0...0.0...1ac.1.m30o_ZnDCck#i=0 https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&tbo=d&biw=320&bih=416&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=fire+fist+yugioh&oq=fire+fist+yugioh&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..0i24.5388.7067.0.7290.7.5.0.2.2.2.260.782.2j1j2.5.0...0.0...1ac.1.m30o_ZnDCck#i=2 These guys. They're freaking insane. Definitely tier 1 when they come out. So, what I want you to discuss is how well will you think they do on the tier list? How do you think the ban list will hit them? Are they fun to play with? What about against? And what cards make them so good? Also. screenies are welcome and highly recommended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Played them in YGOPro, that means no Wolfbark or Chicken. Still pretty crazy without them, I see them becoming Tier 1 when they hit TCG. And no, I wouldn't exactly call them fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Not fun to use, or not fun to duel against? I really like using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1354941631' post='6088018'] Not fun to use, or not fun to duel against? I really like using them. [/quote] Both actually, didn't really enjoy using them. It had an..., Inzektor-esque feeling to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpoleMew Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 [quote name='Wildflame' timestamp='1354941241' post='6088009'] Played them in YGOPro, that means no Wolfbark or Chicken. [/quote] You're clearly playing the wrong version. [img]http://gyazo.com/abcbf283e4fe9861b1ad405c1931ef15.png[/img] Anyway they're pretty fun but they'll probably be another $700 deck in the TCG so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 I dunno. They seem kind of spammy, but they still aren't on Rekindling's level. They do have a lot of searchability going for them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 They plus like nuts (reminding me immediately of Atlanteans/Mermails). They keep field presence differently, though. Still irritating to play against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 I freakin' love this archtype. It is just so amazing and hits the points in so many good ways that it is one of my favorite archtypes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 I personally feel like Fire Kings are more Inzektor-y than Fists. The Fire Fists are actually one of my favorites as well. The Dances give a lot of flexibility to their strategy, and all the other Beast-Warrior support can actually mesh decently. Their only real downside is that their effects are overreliant on Firedances, so you can't really make a build without the Dances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Chicken is what ruined this deck for me. Wolberk is bad, and it would have been fine if they'd just left it at Dragon. I like this deck a lot as a beat deck, but the spamming part ruined it. Chicken to 0 and Tenki to 1 makes this deck okay. Wolfbark to 1 or 2 would be cool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 I think tenki would be ok at 2, but chicken is downright stewpid. Definitely banworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1355010664' post='6088591'] I think tenki would be ok at 2, but chicken is downright stewpid. Definitely banworthy. [/quote]Tenki shouldn't be over 1. It's worse than ROTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 But without it at 2+, fire fists lose all of their power. Konami will *probably* put it to 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1355011667' post='6088600'] But without it at 2+, fire fists lose all of their power. Konami will *probably* put it to 2. [/quote]Fire Fists can search it. There's no loss in power at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 They need to cycle through 2 in order to secure their advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 [quote name='Archlord Sora' timestamp='1355013223' post='6088624'] They need to cycle through 2 in order to secure their advantage. [/quote]They need no such thing. 2 is all they need to f***ing rape everything. Plus Tenki is broken and should be @1, or even 0, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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