Blake Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Monsters: 16 3 Flamvell Firedog 3 Hazy Flame Cerbereus 2 Hazy Flame Hyppogrif 2 Hazy Flame Mantikor 3 Hazy Flame Peryton 3 Hazy Flame Sphynx Spells: 15 1 Dark Hole 2 Forbidden Lance 2 Hazy Pillar 1 Heavy Storm 1 Monster Reborn 2 Mystical Space Typhoon 3 Onslaught of the Fire Kings 3 Rekindling Traps: 9 2 Compulsory Evacuation Device 2 Fiendish Chain 1 Solemn Judgment 2 Solemn Warning 2 Torrential Tribute Extra: 15 1 Constellar Ptolemys Messier 7 2 Diamond Dire Wolf 1 Gagaga Gunman 2 Gaia Dragon, the Thunder Charger 2 Gauntlet Buster 2 Hazy Flame Basilitrice 2 Inzektor Exa-Beetle 1 Photon Papilloperative 2 Photon Strike Bounzer Considering negging 1 Hyppogrif for something, but not sure what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StupidFred Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Try The Big Cattle Drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Try The Big Cattle Drive. lolno The Big Cattle Drive is absolutely awful. Why would I want to give up spells in the name of situational drawing? It's only good with Peryton plays, and chances are that I used Pillar the turn I make my first/only Peryton play. After that, Cattle Drive is completely winmoar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zektor Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Isn't the point of this deck to use cards like the Fire Kings and Sacred Phoenix? Sorry if I'm wrong I've only played against this deck once or twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Isn't the point of this deck to use cards like the Fire Kings and Sacred Phoenix? Sorry if I'm wrong I've only played against this deck once or twice. The point of Hazy Flames is beating the opponent down, sitting on Cerberuses because of how they search everything in your deck pretty much, and making Rank 6s when you need to get over something. You use cards like Firedog, Onslaught, Peryton, and Cerberus to thin the deck to fill the grave and prep for when you get Rekindling, if ever. Fire Kings don't mesh that well here, from what I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Hypogrifo? Over Gryps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Hypogrifo? Over Gryps? 200 DEF which makes it a fire dog target, another Rekindling Target, and is a decent beater on its own over a bad CyDra that punishes me for using anything not FIRE? Yes, please. Though I do wanna neg 1 Hypo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StupidFred Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 The Big Cattle Drive works with Cerberus, Mantikor, and Sphinx. Considering how quickly you can spam these out, that card is very useful. You should also try Onslaught of the Fire Kings. Here is my Hazy Flame deck and it has worked wonders for me. And you honestly don't even need Flamvell Dog if you have Onslaught in the Fire Kings in your deck.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 The Big Cattle Drive works with Cerberus, Mantikor, and Sphinx. Considering how quickly you can spam these out, that card is very useful. You should also try Onslaught of the Fire Kings. Here is my Hazy Flame deck and it has worked wonders for me. And you honestly don't even need Flamvell Dog if you have Onslaught in the Fire Kings in your deck.. You don't "spam them out" that quickly and it's totally win more, considering you only draw 1 per type you have. then you give up Spells ad setting cards. Not worth it. Flamvell Firedog increases the Cerberus I get quickly and is a target for Onslaught, should I desire so. It's been testing absolutely fine. Consistency > Spam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 The Big Cattle Drive works with Cerberus, Mantikor, and Sphinx. Considering how quickly you can spam these out, that card is very useful. You should also try Onslaught of the Fire Kings. Here is my Hazy Flame deck and it has worked wonders for me. And you honestly don't even need Flamvell Dog if you have Onslaught in the Fire Kings in your deck.. 1) The Big Cattle Drive is awful because it shuts down EVERYTHING after its use. you cant activate spells or traps or monster effects. for a maximum of 3 cards. 2) he already runs 3 onslaught. OT: im not entirely familiar with Hazy Flames, but have you tried Fire Ring? it would let you swap out a Hazy Flame for a better one in grave if need be and can trigger Mantikor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 1) The Big Cattle Drive is awful because it shuts down EVERYTHING after its use. you cant activate spells or traps or monster effects. for a maximum of 3 cards. 2) he already runs 3 onslaught. OT: im not entirely familiar with Hazy Flames, but have you tried Fire Ring? it would let you swap out a Hazy Flame for a better one in grave if need be and can trigger Mantikor. Problem is that Fire Ring ONLY works well with Cerberus and maybe Firedog. I could tech one, but I'm not too sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Problem is that Fire Ring ONLY works well with Cerberus and maybe Firedog. I could tech one, but I'm not too sure. right. cerberus. whyd i type mantikor? yeah i can see your point. it might be an interesting thing to try out if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 For the extra, is there a reason why you run 2 exa/1 Ptolemys over 1 exa/2Ptolemys? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zektor Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 The point of Hazy Flames is beating the opponent down, sitting on Cerberuses because of how they search everything in your deck pretty much, and making Rank 6s when you need to get over something. You use cards like Firedog, Onslaught, Peryton, and Cerberus to thin the deck to fill the grave and prep for when you get Rekindling, if ever. Fire Kings don't mesh that well here, from what I've seen. Ohh, ok, the only time I had ever seen the deck played, it was based on people getting out the Fire King beater and Phoenix, and everytime they got destroyed, my field would get nuked next turn, which was pretty annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Ohh, ok, the only time I had ever seen the deck played, it was based on people getting out the Fire King beater and Phoenix, and everytime they got destroyed, my field would get nuked next turn, which was pretty annoying. thats just fire kings. they dont need hazy flame to do that at all and hazy flame dont need the fire kings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Is Mantikor really that useful in the deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Is Mantikor really that useful in the deck? It makes safe Peryton plays. @Exa-Beetle: It has different utility than Ptolemys, where Ptolemys mostly piggybacks on what Basilitrice does, so I generally want more beetle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 It makes safe Peryton plays.I know how Hazy Flames work, as they are one of my favorite decks, and I don't entirely follow what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I know how Hazy Flames work, as they are one of my favorite decks, and I don't entirely follow what you mean. He knows them better than you. Thought I'd say that before this gets out of hand. OT: Do you think Breakthrough Skill would be better than Fiendish for stuff like Verz or does it work just as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I know how Hazy Flames work, as they are one of my favorite decks, and I don't entirely follow what you mean. If you get Bottomlessed on a Peryton Play, you pretty much lose, as one of your Cerberus' was just removed completely and you payed 2 to lose said piece. This keeps that pain from happening, because people often wait until after Peryton because they wanna kill more. Of course, if they catch on that they should hit Peryton itself, there's not much you can do aside from Lance, but at least they're not killing your Cerberuses and are only getting a 1-4-1. It's a surprise factor, mostly, and it's a decent beatstick in its own right with a built in protection effect that can make easier pushes for game.He knows them better than you. Thought I'd say that before this gets out of hand. OT: Do you think Breakthrough Skill would be better than Fiendish for stuff like Verz or does it work just as well? I don't really like Breakthrough Skill, and I'd rather use Veiler here before it. Otherwise, Fiendish has been testing fine, but verz is Auto-GG if I don't have Chain/Dark Hole/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 i just noticed you only run 2 lance. maybe try a third in place of hippo. its just an amazingly versatile card really. the only time it clogs is if neither person has a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 I could try that, but I'mma test Ring first. If it doesn't work out, Lance it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 cool. i hope it works well. hazy flames are really interesting to me and im thinking of trying them out. weve been getting lots of cool fire archetypes lately (though personally im not a big fire fist fan) and ive been wanting to try them all out when i have the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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