newhat Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Naturia Beast is secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 I am not 100% sure about Macro here with Kuick, but what I can tell you for sure is that you should try 3 Cash Cache, and if you feel like it maybe try out a second Haipa. I don't have too much experience with Karakuris, but 2 Haipa worked for me personally. Also, have you considered Instant Fusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Instant Fusion is OK but I"m lacking in space. This Deck has to swap out and emphasize on Spell negation sometimes. What to take out for the third Cash Cache and/or Haipa? Kuick, like Veiler and Barkion, is used because Macro is not a hundred-percent thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 -2 Macro +1 Cash Cache +1 Instant Fusion You're playing Nisamu, Kuick and Veiler, it's a bit dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Macro is core. Straight Karakuri is a Deck for another time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Nisamu also loses out to Macro Cosmos. Quite frankly, you're hurting your own deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Running Macro in Karakuri won me a tournament, but I'd only side it since you're running Veiler, Kuick and Nisamu. You have to chose right there. Is Soul Taker worth maining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Also you can't use Beast's effect when you have Macro out o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Nisamu rarely uses its effect, and if Macro did not hurt the opponent more, I would leave Macro face-down. I also don't usually open with it, so Kuick and Barkion usually have at least 1 use. And if Macro is already out, small Karakuris can be burned off for a Sync or Xyz since the Shoguns don't interact with the Graveyard. Having the option to use Macro is such a huge boost that the need to strategize around it is worthwhile. I think. I'm aware that Beast doesn't work under Macro. So Beast can't protect Macro from MST or Heavy. Against that which Beast screws over (Spellbooks, HERO), I have Beast. Against that which Macro hinders (Atlantean, Chaos Dragon), I have Macro. This Deck is modular and doesn't need either one to win. The reason I'm doing this is that among Naturia Beast, Naturia Barkion and Macro Cosmos I have a favorable matchup against everything except Wind-Up, and can side to specialize in the second game. Soul Taker probably isn't worth maining. I can take it out for a Cash Cache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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