kevin7653 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 This is a card for a contest I have entered in.If you are curious about the 1,000,000 it is part of the contest reqs of the contest.Any constructive criticm and things I cando better would be helpful.I know I have bad OCG so a fix would also be nice. LORE:When this card destroys an opponents monster by battle this card gains 300 ATK until the End Phase. Once this card attacks if there is still monster cards on your opponents side of the field this card can attack again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 More often than not, 1500 ATK is too weak to kill an opponent's monster by battle without help, and that means you're probably losing advantage in order to pull its effect off. A card I'm comparing this to would be Koa'ki Meiru Bergzak. While you need to keep a Warrior in your hand (not that big of a drawback) or drop an Iron Core to keep this guy alive, he is much more capable to hacking down Level 4- monsters. In order to make one that doesn't have drawbacks like Bergzak (and yet capable of killing something), you should probably give it 1800 or so ATK. Then there's the fact that your opponent needs to have another monster on the field for its second attack, while Bergzak is capable of cutting down TKRO and then jumping at your opponent's Life Points. Usually, your opponent won't have two monsters that this guy can kill, just because your opponent can Xyz Summon something using them in their Main Phase 2. This guys usually have 2200-2500 ATK, but there are many that have more. In order to let you pull off a double-kill with this bird, you might want to bump up the ATK boost that it gets for killing the first guy just a tad. Killing your opponent's boss and one of their lackies might seem OP, but you would need your opponent to have kept a weak monster that this card could kill on the field first in order to pull it off. Otherwise, you would need to combo this guy with something such as Forbidden Lance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin7653 Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 OK so what im hearing is keep the ATK and boost the boost or increase the ATK to something like 1800? With suggestion #1 where i boost the boost he could easily become OP and whipe out qiute a few of your opponents monsters keeping the original bboost.However he becomes vulnerable again at the end of the turn but this could easily become a lethal combo if you had the right crad... with suggestion #2 I boost the original ATK in order to get him that first kill but that would make it easier to become OP. What if I keep the ATK and raise the boost to 400? Or would it be betterto raise the ATK to 1700 or 1800 and possibly lower the boost to 200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 It's really a combination of both. As I said, 1500 ATK will hardly be able to kill anything by itself, and if its second swing has 1900 ATK, then there is little reason to run this instead of Bergzak, really just stuff that supports Winged-Beasts like Swallow's Nest. But if you lower the boost and make its ATK 1800, then its second swing will have 1900 or 2000 ATK, still pretty much weaker than Bergzak. What I'm suggesting is something like having 1800 ATK and a boost of 400 or 500. This way, while being able to kill a Tour Guide, Rabbit, Card Car, or other weak monster that was stopped by a Veiler, this could also run over stronger things like a Bora, Zephyros, Agent Venus, Guaiba, Tengu, you get the point, it lets this card activate its effect against such cards that your opponent couldn't use up for an Xyz Summon, then the boost makes you be able to run over stronger ones or utility Xyzs such as TKRO, Blackship, Leviar, or Chain. Oh, and I don't think I noticed when I first posted, but it seems the effect isn't a once-per-turn effect like I thought. It's probably better to make it a once-per-turn effect or else this card coupled with Lance could become a potential Raigeki, granted you are still considering what I'm suggesting to improve the usefulness of the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin7653 Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 what you are suggesting would probably make it OP maybe at 1600 ATK at an 300-400 boost would make it pretty balanced and still make it worth while.If you think about it with a a card or two this could become an lethal combination even just as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Well, if you aren't feeling so safe about changing it the way I suggested, then oh well. Anyway, I'd really rather have this card have a higher ATK and a smaller boost instead of the other way around. Then at least it would be able to kill a lot of the aforementioned monsters, although unfortunately the double-attack effect now looks highly unlikely to actually go off now that you would need two monsters on your opponent's side of the field with pretty much 1900 or less ATK (and even then, one has to weaker than this). Due to the likelihood of those 2 needed monsters being Level 4 (or at least the same Level), I just don't see it happening very often. At most, you could kill Venus, then swing at Hyperion and pull a Lance off, or something similar. But then you have to remember that Lance is only 3 or less cards in your Deck and are useful in many other ways that may end up expending your Lance before pulling off something that involves this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin7653 Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 It would work well against a six samuri deck or blackwing deck or pretty much any type of swarm deck but i agree I think the ATK should be at 1600 and the boost at 300-400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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