My Attempt at a "Fire King" Card [Fire King Avatar Huli Jing]

[Kingdom Xathers]

I've basically decided to go against my usual routine of posting in the Written Cards Section and actually make a Realistic Card for a change:

 

 

 

During your turn: You can discard this card from your hand; your opponent can destroy 1 card they control to negate this effect, otherwise destroy 1 monster you control or in your hand, then inflict damage to your opponent equal to the destroyed monster's Level x300. If this card is destroyed by a card effect: You can add 1 Level 4 or lower "Fire King" monster from your Deck or Graveyard to your hand.

 

 

 

What say you?  Is it a little too strong for a "Fire King"? Not strong enough?  Is the burn not needed?  Should I stop badgering you with questions?

 

 

Anyways, Comment and Critique, por favor.

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

its uhhhhh, not really that good for fire kings. several things. 1) its missing the level 4 and lower fire king clause which is "When a "Fire King" monster you control is destroyed: You can Special Summon this card from your hand." 2) neither of its effects are good. theyre covered by yaksha (which is level 4 and a beast-warrior which is a plus) and barong (same as yaksha AND it can add garunix and the spell cards) respectively. admittedly barong cant grab from grave but fire ring, wolfberk, reborn, call, rekindling, and garunix itself make that irrelevant. 3) i understand the level 3 and beast are to make it a companion for qilian but qilian is awful and not used anyways. thats what i have to offer.

[Sander]

1) its missing the level 4 and lower fire king clause which is "When a "Fire King" monster you control is destroyed: You can Special Summon this card from your hand."

 

First of all, you're dead wrong here. Yaksha's, Barong's and Qilin's effect is "IF a "Fire King" monster you control is destroyed: You can Special Summon this card from your hand."

 

Anyways, the card is good. Yes, I said good. Don't try and tell me that you wouldn't want to destroy something in your hand / field, be it Barong / Yaksha / Garunix / Nephtys, burn your opponent for 1200 / 2100 or 2400 and trigger their effects. Also, it's a free recycle / RoTa for Fire Kings when used with Fire Cycle, which in turn allows you to SS any FIRE monster from your Graveyard. Hell, this would even make Qilin playable.

 

At the moment, however, it won't see play. Why? Because Tenki exists. If it weren't for Tenki though, it would see play, since as I said before, the card is good.

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

First of all, you're dead wrong here. Yaksha's, Barong's and Qilin's effect is "IF a "Fire King" monster you control is destroyed: You can Special Summon this card from your hand."

 

Anyways, the card is good. Yes, I said good. Don't try and tell me that you wouldn't want to destroy something in your hand / field, be it Barong / Yaksha / Garunix / Nephtys, burn your opponent for 1200 / 2100 or 2400 and trigger their effects. Also, it's a free recycle / RoTa for Fire Kings when used with Fire Cycle, which in turn allows you to SS any FIRE monster from your Graveyard. Hell, this would even make Qilin playable.

 

At the moment, however, it won't see play. Why? Because Tenki exists. If it weren't for Tenki though, it would see play, since as I said before, the card is good.

 

being DEAD WRONG on one word isnt DEAD WRONG. please dont be a pedant. and no, i dont want a hand trap version of yaksha for burn. i dont want burn damage in fire kings. i dont want burn damage at all. burn damage is boring. and furthermore, the two effects wont happen together UNLESS i waste a fire ring on this thing when i can use it on literally any other monster. i can grab a wolfberk and go for xyz. i can grab a garunix or nepthys that got dumped in the grave by something other than being destroyed by a card effect. i can even grab yaksha or barong and use their effects. or i can grab this. fire kings dont need to recycle to hand. thats awful. you want them in grave or on the field. this cant even grab fire ring or onslaught which barong can do. they dont need rota. even excluding tenki they have barong and onslaught. this wont make the deck more consistent because it cant be grabbed by tenki. its level 3 so it messes with xyz plays. if you bring it back with ring i would personally slap you. the discard effect can be NEGATED by your opponent popping a monster which since its goddamn fire kings and theyll likely know you need it to go off theyre gonna do. it doesnt make qilian playable because nothing about qilian is playable and adding another level 3 beast fire king wont change that.

 

if you think this works in fire kings you dont know fire kings.

 

@xathers i do want you to know the above is entirely directed at zanda for misunderstanding how the deck plays so blatantly. i dont think youve made an awful card. if it were for fire monsters in general, or hell even a different fire archetype i wouldnt mind it at all. the card youve made is pretty decent. its just not in any way good support for fire kings. it does what they already do but less efficiently. its not a target for a lot of their most important effects. there is no possible scenario where this card would be appreciated as it currently exists. please do not think this is me picking on you. im not. its just...the goal you set out on when you made this card (make good fire king support) wasnt met and theres no easy way to say that except to say it.

[Sander]

the two effects wont happen together UNLESS i waste a fire ring on this thing when i can use it on literally any other monster. i can grab a wolfberk and go for xyz. i can grab a garunix or nepthys that got dumped in the grave by something other than being destroyed by a card effect. i can even grab yaksha or barong and use their effects. or i can grab this.

 

Who said anything about using Fire Ring to Special Summon this? I guess you can't think and figure out that what I meant is to use Fire Ring to destroy this to trigger its effect and either search for a Fire King monster or recycle a Fire King monster to your hand.

 

fire kings dont need to recycle to hand. thats awful. you want them in grave or on the field. this cant even grab fire ring or onslaught which barong can do. they dont need rota. even excluding tenki they have barong and onslaught.

 

You also need them in your hand, as you will not always have Onslaught available, and if you're so good at playing Fire Kings, you should know that one of the most common plays is to use Yakshas eff on your hand. Also, given how the deck doesn't play any draw power, other than double Dualities, what are the chances of consistently drawing into the perfect hand?

 

this wont make the deck more consistent because it cant be grabbed by tenki. its level 3 so it messes with xyz plays. if you bring it back with ring i would personally slap you. the discard effect can be NEGATED by your opponent popping a monster which since its goddamn fire kings and theyll likely know you need it to go off theyre gonna do. it doesnt make qilian playable because nothing about qilian is playable and adding another level 3 beast fire king wont change that.

 

The deck was never meant to be an Xyz oriented deck in the first place, with the core idea being to only trigger Garunix and constantly monster nuke the field. Also, regarding Qilin, this would make Qilin more playable, as in it would be easier to use it than before if this card were real.. Obviously I didn't mean that it would be a game breaker. What, did you?

 

if you think this works in fire kings you dont know fire kings.

 

What I think is that you're just too stubborn or are living too much in the moment to realize that the deck could get hit. Not Fire Kings in general, but Tenki, given how good the Brotherhood archetype is. And what happens if Tenki gets hit? That's right, the consistency of the deck drops dramatically. And yes, I think this would work in Fire Kings, but I guess thinking in advance makes me a bad player or something, so go ahead and don't listen to me, because you're such a good player.

[dmack89]

I would like to say nice card I like the huli jing nine tails demon fox......mythology buff....? Also I play a fire kings deck and I think it would be a good card but I would probably not play it. The main reason I would not play it is the uncertainty that my opponent could negate the effect by destroying one of there cards. You build me a fire king that can stop my monsters from being banished from card like bottomless, and I don't think my deck could ever lose.....p.s. also my fantasy anti banishing fire king give it 200 def. and beast warrior just to assure victory...... Hahahaha huli jing don't give my opposition a chance to stop its effect and we got a deal. Cool card. See ya

Something like this lol this made my wife fall over on the floor!

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