ihop Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21459240 Oh. Well, that's surprising and quite sad really, hopefully he turns out to be innocent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 The amount of times the BBC repeated this story between 6 and 7am. I withhold judgment until the facts are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeguBrit Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Apparently he thought she was a burglar, which is a plausible explanation (having been told burglary stats by BBC news in RSA) but what isn't exactly plausible is that he apparently shot her 3-4 times. Just what I've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Tim Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Apparently he thought she was a burglar, which is a plausible explanation (having been told burglary stats by BBC news in RSA) but what isn't exactly plausible is that he apparently shot her 3-4 times. Just what I've heard. Maybe it was dark and he was just paranoid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Tim Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Update! They found a bloody cricket bat at his house. I really doubt this is an accident now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted February 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Update! They found a bloody cricket bat at his house. I really doubt this is an accident now. Pics or it didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Tim Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Pics or it didn't happen. http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/02/17/oscar-pistorius-murder-charge-bloodied-cricket-bat-reportedly-found-after-reeva-steenkamp-death/ No pics because its in police custody being tested on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Well at least he didn't use blades. Oh, fk you guys, that was a good joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted February 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/02/17/oscar-pistorius-murder-charge-bloodied-cricket-bat-reportedly-found-after-reeva-steenkamp-death/ No pics because its in police custody being tested on. F*** me, I thought you were joking. Wooow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeguBrit Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 UPDATE: Steroids were found in Pistorius' house. Some think that roid rage had something to do with the murder. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/9877016/Oscar-Pistorius-murder-charge-steroids-found-at-athletes-home.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Tim Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 All evidence points to him, no sign of a break in, steroids to explain his aggression. His weapon of choice a 9mm pistol which he fired at least 4 times, in places that would suggest it was no accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 That's damn shame. To throw his life away for something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Tim Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 That's damn shame. To throw his life away for something like this. He was a hero and a motivation to disabled people everywhere, not only them but south africans and generally everyone who feels less than someone else. This isn't just about the loss of one woman, its about the loss of an idol that inspired many across the globe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 I wonder if we ever will find out exactly what went on that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 I wonder if we ever will find out exactly what went on that night. Ten years from now, maybe. But within the next few months, I highly doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 All I can think of is a guy with no legs, and without prosthetics on, attempting to chase down a girl in a house with a cricket bat. Sadly comical, this thought is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Tim Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 All I can think of is a guy with no legs, and without prosthetics on, attempting to chase down a girl in a house with a cricket bat. Sadly comical, this thought is. He shot her with a gun...she used the cricket bat to try to defend herself is what the media is speculating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 He shot her with a gun...she used the cricket bat to try to defend herself is what the media is speculating. Too late. All I can think of is... a guy with no legs, and without prosthetics on, attempting to chase down a girl in a house with a cricket bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Tim Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Too late. All I can think of is... The guy is also an olympic level sprinter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Stupid. All of it, stupid. I thought the guy was innocent, but after reading about the bloody bat and steroids, I guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted February 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 So Pistorius's story now is that he woke up hearing someone in the toilet, went up to it and fired four shots at it. At this point he realised Reeva was not in bed, so he breaks down the door with the bat. Either way, he's still paranoid and needs medical attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeguBrit Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 [spoiler='His entire defence statement'] "On the 13th of February 2013 Reeva would have gone out with her friends and I with my friends. Reeva then called me and asked that we rather spend the evening at home. I agreed and we were content to have a quiet dinner together at home. By about 22h00 on 13 February 2013 we were in our bedroom. She was doing her yoga exercises and I was in bed watching television. My prosthetic legs were off. We were deeply in love and I could not be happier. I know she felt the same way. She had given me a present for Valentine's Day but asked me only to open it the next day. "After Reeva finished her yoga exercises she got into bed and we both fell asleep. I am acutely aware of violent crime being committed by intruders entering homes with a view to commit crime, including violent crime. I have received death threats before. I have also been a victim of violence and of burglaries before. For that reason I kept my firearm, a 9mm Parabellum, underneath my bed when I went to bed at night. "During the early morning hours of 14 February 2013, I woke up, went onto the balcony to bring the fan in and closed the sliding doors, the blinds and the curtains. I heard a noise in the bathroom and realised that someone was in the bathroom. "I felt a sense of terror rushing over me. There are no burglar bars across the bathroom window and I knew that contractors who worked at my house had left the ladders outside. Although I did not have my prosthetic legs on I have mobility on my stumps. I believed that someone had entered my house. I was too scared to switch a light on. "I grabbed my 9mm pistol from underneath my bed. On my way to the bathroom I screamed words to the effect for him/them to get out of my house and for Reeva to phone the police. It was pitch dark in the bedroom and I thought Reeva was in bed. "I noticed that the bathroom window was open. I realised that the intruder/s was/were in the toilet because the toilet door was closed and I did not see anyone in the bathroom. I heard movement inside the toilet. The toilet is inside the bathroom and has a separate door. "It filled me with horror and fear of an intruder or intruders being inside the toilet. I thought he or they must have entered through the unprotected window. As I did not have my prosthetic legs on and felt extremely vulnerable, I knew I had to protect Reeva and myself. I believed that when the intruder/s came out of the toilet we would be in grave danger. I felt trapped as my bedroom door was locked and I have limited mobility on my stumps. "I fired shots at the toilet door and shouted to Reeva to phone the police. She did not respond and I moved backwards out of the bathroom, keeping my eyes on the bathroom entrance. Everything was pitch dark in the bedroom and I was still too scared to switch on a light. Reeva was not responding. When I reached the bed, I realised that Reeva was not in bed. That is when it dawned on me that it could have been Reeva who was in the toilet. I returned to the bathroom calling her name. I tried to open the toilet door but it was locked. I rushed back into the bedroom and opened the sliding door exiting onto the balcony and screamed for help. "I put on my prosthetic legs, ran back to the bathroom and tried to kick the toilet door open. I think I must then have turned on the lights. I went back into the bedroom and grabbed my cricket bat to bash open the toilet door. A panel or panels broke off and I found the key on the floor and unlocked and opened the door. Reeva was slumped over but alive. "I battled to get her out of the toilet and pulled her into the bathroom. I phoned Johan Stander ("Stander") who was involved in the administration of the estate and asked him to phone the ambulance. I phoned Netcare and asked for help. I went downstairs to open the front door. I returned to the bathroom and picked Reeva up as I had been told not to wait for the paramedics, but to take her to hospital. I carried her downstairs in order to take her to the hospital. On my way down Stander arrived. A doctor who lives in the complex also arrived. Downstairs, I tried to render the assistance to Reeva that I could, but she died in my arms. "I am absolutely mortified by the events and the devastating loss of my beloved Reeva. With the benefit of hindsight I believe that Reeva went to the toilet when I went out on the balcony to bring the fan in. I cannot bear to think of the suffering I have caused her and her family, knowing how much she was loved. I also know that the events of that tragic night were as I have described them and that in due course I have no doubt the police and expert investigators will bear this out." [/spoiler] I don't know what to think about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 The guy is also an olympic level sprinter... All I can think of is a guy with no legs, and without prosthetics on, attempting to chase down a girl in a house with a cricket bat. Good reading comprehension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Tim Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 [spoiler='His entire defence statement'] "On the 13th of February 2013 Reeva would have gone out with her friends and I with my friends. Reeva then called me and asked that we rather spend the evening at home. I agreed and we were content to have a quiet dinner together at home. By about 22h00 on 13 February 2013 we were in our bedroom. She was doing her yoga exercises and I was in bed watching television. My prosthetic legs were off. We were deeply in love and I could not be happier. I know she felt the same way. She had given me a present for Valentine's Day but asked me only to open it the next day. "After Reeva finished her yoga exercises she got into bed and we both fell asleep. I am acutely aware of violent crime being committed by intruders entering homes with a view to commit crime, including violent crime. I have received death threats before. I have also been a victim of violence and of burglaries before. For that reason I kept my firearm, a 9mm Parabellum, underneath my bed when I went to bed at night. "During the early morning hours of 14 February 2013, I woke up, went onto the balcony to bring the fan in and closed the sliding doors, the blinds and the curtains. I heard a noise in the bathroom and realised that someone was in the bathroom. "I felt a sense of terror rushing over me. There are no burglar bars across the bathroom window and I knew that contractors who worked at my house had left the ladders outside. Although I did not have my prosthetic legs on I have mobility on my stumps. I believed that someone had entered my house. I was too scared to switch a light on. "I grabbed my 9mm pistol from underneath my bed. On my way to the bathroom I screamed words to the effect for him/them to get out of my house and for Reeva to phone the police. It was pitch dark in the bedroom and I thought Reeva was in bed. "I noticed that the bathroom window was open. I realised that the intruder/s was/were in the toilet because the toilet door was closed and I did not see anyone in the bathroom. I heard movement inside the toilet. The toilet is inside the bathroom and has a separate door. "It filled me with horror and fear of an intruder or intruders being inside the toilet. I thought he or they must have entered through the unprotected window. As I did not have my prosthetic legs on and felt extremely vulnerable, I knew I had to protect Reeva and myself. I believed that when the intruder/s came out of the toilet we would be in grave danger. I felt trapped as my bedroom door was locked and I have limited mobility on my stumps. "I fired shots at the toilet door and shouted to Reeva to phone the police. She did not respond and I moved backwards out of the bathroom, keeping my eyes on the bathroom entrance. Everything was pitch dark in the bedroom and I was still too scared to switch on a light. Reeva was not responding. When I reached the bed, I realised that Reeva was not in bed. That is when it dawned on me that it could have been Reeva who was in the toilet. I returned to the bathroom calling her name. I tried to open the toilet door but it was locked. I rushed back into the bedroom and opened the sliding door exiting onto the balcony and screamed for help. "I put on my prosthetic legs, ran back to the bathroom and tried to kick the toilet door open. I think I must then have turned on the lights. I went back into the bedroom and grabbed my cricket bat to bash open the toilet door. A panel or panels broke off and I found the key on the floor and unlocked and opened the door. Reeva was slumped over but alive. "I battled to get her out of the toilet and pulled her into the bathroom. I phoned Johan Stander ("Stander") who was involved in the administration of the estate and asked him to phone the ambulance. I phoned Netcare and asked for help. I went downstairs to open the front door. I returned to the bathroom and picked Reeva up as I had been told not to wait for the paramedics, but to take her to hospital. I carried her downstairs in order to take her to the hospital. On my way down Stander arrived. A doctor who lives in the complex also arrived. Downstairs, I tried to render the assistance to Reeva that I could, but she died in my arms. "I am absolutely mortified by the events and the devastating loss of my beloved Reeva. With the benefit of hindsight I believe that Reeva went to the toilet when I went out on the balcony to bring the fan in. I cannot bear to think of the suffering I have caused her and her family, knowing how much she was loved. I also know that the events of that tragic night were as I have described them and that in due course I have no doubt the police and expert investigators will bear this out." [/spoiler] I don't know what to think about this. From what he says makes him seem he is innocent, but I'm a bit confused? Did he shoot through the door? Or did he open it then immediately pull 4 rounds? Also there is a loophole. Why did his girlfriend not reply from the bathroom when he was panicked and screaming for her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeguBrit Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 He shot 4 times through the door. Honestly, I think he's guilty. But what I really want to know is the burglary statistics for his GATED community, seeing as the place has barbed wire around it. If there aren't many burglaries in his area then his fear will be illogical and his one reason for shooting her would be proved false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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