Zacktheflash96 Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 First things first CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM ONLY i only want feedback about the card as a whole if you must comment on the pic only i wanna see a paragraph ;) Another card to add to my many draconic creations. Seemed like a cool idea for a card, but i guess we will see if others think so xD My wording may actually be reeeeally off because the effect is a bit unusual any help with that would be appreciated, if it isn't right. Old Lore 3 Level 8 Dragon-type monsters This card can only be Special Summoned from the Extra Deck. This card can be Special Summoned using 1 Xyz monster that requires 3 level 6 or higher monsters to summon. Once per turn: you can target 1 monster on the field, destroy it. If the destroyed monsters DEF is lower than the ATK of this card, inflict damage equal to the difference to your opponent. Once per turn if this effect was activated this turn: You may detach 1 Xyz Material from this card to Special Summon 1 Dragon-type monster from your deck with ATK less than or equal to the amount of damage this card inflicted on your opponent this turn. Editted Lore 3 Level 8 monsters This card can only be Special Summoned from the Extra Deck. This card can be Special Summoned using 1 Xyz monster that requires 3 level 5 or higher monsters for an Xyz Summon. Once per turn: you can target 1 monster on the field, change this card you control from face-up Attack Position to face-up Defense Position, and destroy that target. If the destroyed monsters DEF is lower than the ATK of this card, inflict damage equal to the difference to your opponent. Once per turn if this effect was activated this turn: You may detach 1 Xyz Material from this card to Special Summon 1 Dragon-type monster from your deck with ATK less than or equal to the amount of damage this card inflicted on your opponent this turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iriq Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Ok, so 3 level 8 --> one would say its hard to pull off however the most recent dragon support cards make having 3 lvl 8 dragons childs play. Your giving him another chance of being summoned Then on top of that, once per turn, you get to destroy 1 monster on the field, inflict effect damage(supposedly a large amount with a defense of 3000), and then finally to SS a dragon type, all with 1 effect with absolutely no cost. Any current level 3 rank 8 monsters out there are strong but nowhere near as powerful, if not op'd as this card. You are basically allowed to summon a powerful Monster with a three-fold effect which can be used for 3 turns (or more with his alternative summoning option). ** So for constructive critiscism, you need to introduce a cost, or get rid 2 out of its 4 effects and then it will be balanced. Which ones are up to you. ** Also, for a better wording: "This card can be Special Summoned using 1 Xyz monster that requires 3 level 6 or higher monsters for an Xyz Summon" although i think most real life cards start off with something that says "you can special summon this card by......" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Actually, this card is near impossible to Summon in a proper archetype-based Deck and it doesn't really approach the level of awesomeness as Neo Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon. The most recent Dragon-Type Archetype, Elemental Dragons, focus on spamming Level 7's, not 8. The only Archetype that uses Rank 8's are Photons, which only Galaxy-Eyes himself is a Dragon, the rest of the monsters that Photons typically use to Xyz Summon aren't Dragon-Type. There would be no harm in making it generic. There are however, a few Dragon-Type cards coming out for Rank 8 Summoning, but they aren't very prominent yet. However, the effect to Summon isn't quite so useful because there aren't many cards that have synergy with it, though, if you are thinking of using this with Hieratics, well Rank 8 Hieratics suck anyway, so it doesn't really matter. 3 Level 8 monster Xyz monsters have to be powerful. It's perfectly balanced, I suppose. It's further balanced by the fact that it's really easy to run over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iriq Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Actually, this card is near impossible to Summon in a proper archetype-based Deck and it doesn't really approach the level of awesomeness as Neo Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon. The most recent Dragon-Type Archetype, Elemental Dragons, focus on spamming Level 7's, not 8. The only Archetype that uses Rank 8's are Photons, which only Galaxy-Eyes himself is a Dragon, the rest of the monsters that Photons typically use to Xyz Summon aren't Dragon-Type. There would be no harm in making it generic. There are however, a few Dragon-Type cards coming out for Rank 8 Summoning, but they aren't very prominent yet. However, the effect to Summon isn't quite so useful because there aren't many cards that have synergy with it, though, if you are thinking of using this with Hieratics, well Rank 8 Hieratics suck anyway, so it doesn't really matter. 3 Level 8 monster Xyz monsters have to be powerful. It's perfectly balanced, I suppose. It's further balanced by the fact that it's really easy to run over. I use a proper dragon deck and it is extremely easy to summon level 8 drags to the field, especially all in 1 turn..so I dont know why "photons" or "galaxies" would be the only summonable option for this card. Second, in the 1st sentence of the effect; the card is also allowed to be summoned with 3 level (6 or greater than) xyzs so basically any xyzs attached to them must be attached to this card. For the final part; imo any cards that can destroy a card without any cost or without having another card on the field in order to activate the effect should be op'd. His dragons effect has absolutely no costs or bounds; as soon as he destroys 1 monster by his effect, he gets to inflict damage (0-3000) as well as a dragon Special summon. In most cases, even though its "once per turn", this could easily cause a OHK. All existing real life 3 monster-requiring rank 8 (or higher) have some sort of fallback to their effects (switch battle postion, cannot atk, discard 1 card, tribute, etc....) This card is way stronger than a god card ( and im not talking about the watered-down versions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Neo Galaxy-Eyes has a drawback? When this card is Xyz Summoned using "Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon" as any of its Materials: Negate the effects of all other face-up cards currently on the field. Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; detach all Xyz Materials from monsters your opponent controls, then this card gains 500 ATK for each, also it can attack up to that many times during each Battle Phase this turn. I see no drawback. It's a possible field negater with the ability to go up to 5500 ATK against a single Maestroke and attack twice. What "dragon archetype" do you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iriq Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Thats a typo; i dont use archtype decks; i simply use type or attribute decks; in this case, a deck with a mix of dragons. Neo Galaxy should not have a drawback in the first place; thats understandable. Sure, I dont use Neo (anymore), but it's effect isnt OP'd in the slightest bit. 1. It negates all other card effects. There are plenty of ways around this. 2. As for the 2nd effect; it only works if your opponent is using xyz's. Whenever I summoned neo or got the chance to summon neo, my opponents never had an xyz on the field. --> a situational effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judαs Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Hieratics are the only way this card can be brought out with relative ease, and you will need Su, Eset and Tefnuit in your hand anyway. If you really managed to end up with all 3... would you really go for this card? It's really on the weaker side of balanced, it has a pathetic 2500 ATK, which even something lame like Utopia can ram into or Gagaga Cowboy can get rid of, and instead of wasting all of your monsters on this card, one would rather go into Atum - REDMD - ss another - Atum - Continue the loop - Gaia. Plus this card doesn't even have immunity to destruction effects, so a single Bottomless Trap Hole will ruin everything. It would be quite balanced if it had any 3 materials, and still no one would run it. If you think the destruction effect is overpowered, because you can pop 1 monster every turn: Volcasaurus, High priestess of Prophecy, Master Hyperion, Inzektor Hornet, Destiny End Dragoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacktheflash96 Posted March 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Well that escalated quickly o_O Anyway, The idea was that you would summon it in defense and it would sit back and pop cards from a distance. I thought it would be a bit OP'd if it could pop a monster and then attack for some high damage as well which would (i thought) equal OTK/FTK's. The card was really made with Hieratic in mind anyway, level 8 CAN suck but it also can work if used properly. And Judas surely a good Hieratic player would clear the way for the card Wingbeat, Su, MST, Night Shot etc etc I've made some changes to the card based on your suggestions so check it out again if you have the time, thanks a lot for the reviews guys they are much appreciated ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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