Superdoopertrooper Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Should go to 1 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 ahahahahahaha, dont troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted March 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 This card is a relic of the past. What deck would even use it now? All it does is put both players back on even grounds if it manages to resolve, which in a modern game full of free +'s that can quickly spiral out of control, can only be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 This card is a relic of the past. What deck would even use it now? All it does is put both players back on even grounds if it manages to resolve, which in a modern game full of free +'s that can quickly spiral out of control, can only be a good thing. Macro.dek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 it doesnt affect life points or the banished pile, so any deck that banishes opponents cards or does burn would love this. its not "setting people on even ground" its an OTK enabler. dont even pretend otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted March 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Macro.dek. *Relevant deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 a card doesnt need to have relevant decks to be abysmal design. this is abysmal design. the only decks that would actually get anything out of it are awful for the game (necro mill, burn shit, final countdown). theres no positive contributions this makes to the game, so it can rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted March 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 it doesnt affect life points or the banished pile, so any deck that banishes opponents cards or does burn would love this. its not "setting people on even ground" its an OTK enabler. dont even pretend otherwise. Again, what relevant deck banishes opponents cards? You're saying we should keep this banned because it *might* help a crappy deck become a little less crappy? How does that make sense? Also, the only good burn deck is chain burn and they don't even run morphing jar, so why would they run this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Moonflowyr Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 *Relevant deck OK how about Chainburn.dek? And this is just OTKs GALORE. Spellbooks could abuse the hell out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Again, what relevant deck banishes opponents cards? You're saying we should keep this banned because it *might* help a crappy deck become a little less crappy? How does that make sense? Also, the only good burn deck is chain burn and they don't even run morphing jar, so why would they run this? YOU DONT NEED RELEVANT DECKS TO BE AWFUL DESIGN ffs, youre dense. please, ignore everything i say again, so you can presumably talk about more awful cards coming back. i would love that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted March 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 OK how about Chainburn.dek? And this is just OTKs GALORE. Spellbooks could abuse the hell out of it. I've already addressed that. Spellbooks? They sure as hell wouldn't bother with Fiber Jar. YOU DONT NEED RELEVANT DECKS TO BE AWFUL DESIGN ffs, youre dense. please, ignore everything i say again, so you can presumably talk about more awful cards coming back. i would love that. True, cards can be "awfully designed" without being relevant, but that's assuming that Fiber Jar is awfully designed, which it's really not. Cards have to be viewed in a wider context. The game has changed to the point where Fiber Jar can in fact be considered a healthy card for game for the reason I stated before. I think a lot of people still have "ban-o-phobia" about a lot of cards that are still banned, without actually realizing that they aren't anything like they used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Again, what relevant deck banishes opponents cards? You're saying we should keep this banned because it *might* help a crappy deck become a little less crappy? How does that make sense? Also, the only good burn deck is chain burn and they don't even run morphing jar, so why would they run this? i dunno, macro rabbit is kinda a deck yknow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L0SS Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I've already addressed that. Spellbooks? They sure as hell wouldn't bother with Fiber Jar. True, cards can be "awfully designed" without being relevant, but that's assuming that Fiber Jar is awfully designed, which it's really not. Cards have to be viewed in a wider context. The game has changed to the point where Fiber Jar can in fact be considered a healthy card for game for the reason I stated before. I think a lot of people still have "ban-o-phobia" about a lot of cards that are still banned, without actually realizing that they aren't anything like they used to be. The main thing is, if this were unbanned, it would make Macro and the like far more relevant, which would amount to people using badly designed decks with little skill in a big way whilst ruining an already broken format for the rest of us. Even if you overlook that, encouraging what is practically a giant restart button is not good design in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0 NO. Reset. Button. This card is evil. I have no idea why they made it. Stay banned. Forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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