Ren✧ Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 2 Level 4 Beast or Beast-Warrior-Type monsters with different names Xyz Materials detached from this card are banished instead of being sent to the Graveyard. Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; target and banish 1 face-up card your opponent controls or in their Graveyard. If this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard: You can banish it; Special Summon 1 of your banished Beast or Beast-Warrior-Type monsters that was detached from this card. ATK reduced to 2500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Over the line. 2600 is high, and this can easily push 3000 with green and purple Fire Formation backrow. It doesn't target, it offers permanent removal without losing the Battle Phase, and it's a cantrip when it dies. On top of which it's an instant Eradicator Epidemic Virus for Fire Kings (Fire Fists already have Sirius). Tone some of this down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Over the line. 2600 is high Tell that to Bahamut and Ophion... That said, it's effect is just no. That fact that it can banish a monster at will is pretty insane, plus that it has such an extreamly high ATK. I never liked the design Diamond Dire Wolf, however it does requite you to destroy a monster you control, as well as it having low ATK. This card is as well, compared to Bahamut and Ophion, way stronger than those, as Bahamut can't use it's effect and attack (in that order, can the other way around) and it's high ATK is it's asset. This is as well reusable if played right, and the fact that it can Summon ANY Beast/Beast Warrior sent their (at first I thought it had to be the banished Xyz Materials). If you do no tone it done, it's gonna be extreamly freaking powerful, and since it's a "once per turn" if you get multiple out, you can really screw things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judαs Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Terribly unfair. Beast-Warriors already have one of the best Rabbit targets (2000 ATK) and after attacking they can morph into this card which has 2600 ATK which has Basilicock's effect for just 2 Lv4 type-specific monsters, and can run over most problematic cards, and even ram itself into popular Rank 5, 6 and 7 monsters. Also Rescue Rabbit is a Beast-Type, so if you have more vanillas in your deck, this card even lets you reuse rabbit. (Plus Rabbit can even be used as Xyz Material for this card.) And it's also eligible for Eradicator and Deck Destruction. edit: Just noticed it has Spellbook of Fate banishing clause. idk If this was intentional, but now it's even worse because it doesn't target. Suggestion to tone it down: Change its attribute, remove the banishing effect, then perhaps you might want to decrease the ATK a little bit, at least to 2550. [hr] OCG Idk whether "Banished Pile" is official terminology, but anyway you can word it like this based on existing cards, also slight OCG fixes. 2 Level 4 Beast or Beast-Warrior-Type monsters Xyz Materials detached from this card are banished instead of being sent to the Graveyard. Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material monster from this card; banish 1 face-up card your opponent controls or in their Graveyard. If this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard: You can banish it; Special Summon 1 of your banished Beast or Beast-Warrior-Type monsters, except "Tezcatlipoca." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Terribly unfair. Beast-Warriors already have one of the best Rabbit targets (2000 ATK) and after attacking they can morph into this card which has 2600 ATK which has Basilicock's effect for just 2 Lv4 type-specific monsters, and can run over most problematic cards, and even ram itself into popular Rank 5, 6 and 7 monsters. Also Rescue Rabbit is a Beast-Type, so if you have more vanillas in your deck, this card even lets you reuse rabbit. (Plus Rabbit can even be used as Xyz Material for this card.) And it's also eligible for Eradicator and Deck Destruction. edit: Just noticed it has Spellbook of Fate banishing clause. idk If this was intentional, but now it's even worse because it doesn't target. Suggestion to tone it down: Change its attribute, remove the banishing effect, then perhaps you might want to decrease the ATK a little bit, at least to 2550. [hr] OCG Idk whether "Banished Pile" is official terminology, but anyway you can word it like this based on existing cards, also slight OCG fixes. 2 Level 4 Beast or Beast-Warrior-Type monsters Xyz Materials detached from this card are banished instead of being sent to the Graveyard. Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material monster from this card; Banish 1 face-up card your opponent controls or in their Graveyard. If this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard: You can banish it; Special Summon 1 of your banished Beast or Beast-Warrior-Type monsters, except "Tezcatlipoca." Banished PIle isn't, nor is Banished Zone, I forgot to put up an OCG fix, but I would probably have pointed that out. Anyway, you seem to have covered it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted April 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 For some reason I totally forgot about Rescue Rabbit...just one of my moments. Alright, I made it so Rescue Rabbit can't summon him. Nerfed him quite a bit. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 It's better, it's still bloody powerful, though many Decks won't be able to run this effectivly, and Rabbit, as said, is not problem. You also fixed the part about beaing abel to SS any banished monster, so that'd good. Still would personally nerf it more, though it can be taken out a bit more easily now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren✧ Posted April 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 It's better, it's still bloody powerful, though many Decks won't be able to run this effectivly, and Rabbit, as said, is not problem. You also fixed the part about beaing abel to SS any banished monster, so that'd good. Still would personally nerf it more, though it can be taken out a bit more easily now. Perhaps get rid of the optional banishment of a target in the Grave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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