Anozariel Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Hello every one! This is my first time so "please be gentle!". About myself and this card; for a long time ago i am a big fan of the original Yu-Gi-Oh! anime's ace monsters like Dark Magician, Blue-Eyes W. Dragon and Red-Eyes B. Dragon. As you can suspect my #1 favorites are the "Red-Eyes" monsters and ofc as a player, currently i am running a Hieratic based Red-Eyes H. Dragon Beat Down deck. I do not have any real problem with that but still sometimes i have the feeling, this monster could use some more support. I mean, this is so unfair that the Blue-Eyes W. Dragon already has 2 tuners (The White Stone of Legends, Blue-Eyed Maiden) and a Synchro monster (Blue-Eyed Silver Dragon) while the Red-Eyes B. Dragon, the "rival" of the Blue-Eyes W. Dragon is completly forgotten. So to relieve my sadness i have made some support cards, this is the first one. What do you think about it? :) [attachment=37355:land_of_disasters_001.jpg] Each "[url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Red-Eyes]Red-Eyes[/url]" monster(s) gains 200 ATK for each Dragon-Type monster you control. Once per turn, during either player's turn, when a face-up "[url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Red-Eyes]Red-Eyes[/url]" monster would be destroyed by a card effect: You can discard a Dragon-Type monster instead. When this card is destroyed by your opponent's card and sent to the Graveyard: You can Special Summon 1 "[url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Red-Eyes_Darkness_Dragon]Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon[/url]" from your hand or Deck, ignoring the Summoning conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugPhoenix Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Looked underpowered, then the last line broke the card so hard. Instant REDMD is broken no matter the circumstances. There is no way to destroy the card, unless it is banished ( and I haven't seen many macro decks out there). This would definitely be at 1 if not banned. The 100 boost is too low IMO... maybe 200 (300 might be much, but thats just me). As for the summoning effect, maybe something less broken (any lv 4 or lower dragon?) again, just my suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUE RULER^(Imper.Di ) Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 It's NOT Red-Eyes Darkness Metal. It's the regular one. Being able to Summon REDD is the problem here. How about add him to your hand, and as an option: return 1 "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from your graveyard to your deck. I too was making Red-Eyes Support until I got bored. Keep it up though. More Power to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anozariel Posted April 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Rasengan000, thank you for your reply, but as i see you just can't imagine this card in action. 1st 100 ATK after every DARK Dragon-Type means a fair boost to every Red-Eyes none support monsters. If you only have a REDM it already has 2900 ATK with this spell, and if you bring out an another Red-Eyes for example a Red-Eyes B. Dragon from you hand or grave, you will have a REDM with 3000 ATK and a REBD with 2600 ATK. A minor but strong boost. 2nd if you opponent destroys this card you will bring a Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon and do not the Metal Dragon. Further more there are plenty options to outplay the last effect. Every deck with field spell card outplays it since if you active a field spell while your opponent already has one ont he field, that is not destroy, just a simple swich. So a Harpie, Grevekeeper, Dark World deck outplays this one easely. Further more Monarch decks with Caius, Raiza, Ligh and Darkness Dragon are complety annihilate it too. And ofc if you run a casual deck you just need to set a trap before you destroy it or just simply special summon a Steelswarm Roach. Victim of the Oligarchy, when i was working on this card, also myslef had the feeling that this last effect will be a little too much, but since i am often playing with Prophecy deck, after the example of [url=http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/The_Grand_Spellbook_Tower]The Grand Spellbook Tower[/url] i need to tell you; against a semi good player 6 times out of 10 you will have no chance to active the 3rd effect. There are too many ways to outplay it. You don't need more just a little game expreience to do it. Overall, maybe i will change it to a Red-Eyes B. Dragon. Thank you guys! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUE RULER^(Imper.Di ) Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Maybe. In truth Red-Eyes Darkness is far from the strongest monster in the game. It wasn't even the strongest monster when it was introduced. And I've tried to run it on Dueling Portal, the necessary formula to run him is very complex and takes up a lot of deck space, I'll keep trying. But Overall you have a good concept, just make the Field search for Darkness and Recover B. Dragon/SS B.Dragon and I'll have no qualms. I loved REDD. It looks effing sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anozariel Posted April 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 This is a very good idea, the field spell is updated! :) ... When this card is destroyed by your opponent's card and sent to the Graveyard: you can Special Summon 1 "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from your hand, Deck or Graveyard OR add 1 "Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon" from your Deck to your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judαs Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 I like it. Konami is making support for Blue-Eyes, it only makes sense to make support cards for Red-Eyes. Unfortunately (or fortunately, in favor of balance, perhaps), the line "opponent's card effect" makes this slightly less usable, because then it can't be used like Geartown, and can't combo with Magical Hats etc. Also in case you ever do feel like making something that Special Summons REDD: Don't forget to mention "ignoring the Summoning Conditions", because REDD is a (semi?)-nomi monster. [hr] OCG "Red-Eyes" monsters gain 100 ATK for each DARK Dragon-Type monster you control. Once per turn, during either player's turn, when a face-up "Red-Eyes" monster would be destroyed by a card effect: You can discard a Dragon-Type monster instead. When this card is destroyed by your opponent's card and sent to the Graveyard: You can Special Summon 1 "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from your hand, Deck or Graveyard OR add 1 "Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon" from your Deck to your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 As somebody who ran a Red-Eyes F.G.D Spam in the 2007 format (Which is insane BTW. F.G.D, REDMD, REDD and 2 Red-Eyes every duel. I wish I can give you the recipe.) , I guess I can fill you in. Anyway, I like the concept of it. Red-Eyes desperately need support because they are all useless safe for REDMD which is now mostly dead after Konami smashed it's kneecaps with the banhammer so this is really appreciated. Continuing with the effect, I'd say this is rather useful. Not so much, but still pretty darn good. The ATK gain is rather forgettable, but it should prove useful once you get 3 copies of Red-Eyes, REDMD and Dark Flare on your field. I suggest changing it so that it works with other Dragon-types instead of DARK Dragons because Wyvern isn't DARK and it's just the best Red-Eyes support other than REDMD. The destruction effect is again, forgettable other than for setting up graveyard combos because most of the time you would have thrown your hand onto the field so you can't really do anything when you lose everything. The last effect is fine, but the part where REDD can only be added to your hand is unnecessary. Just make it so that it can SS it ignoring the summoning conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUE RULER^(Imper.Di ) Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Originally REDD was Summoned ignoring Summoning conditions. It's my fault that it was removed, but looking at the format now it would be acceptable to SS Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon like that, but won't u not be able to SS him from the graveyard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshpalStefan Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Each "Red-Eyes" monster(s) gains 100 ATK for each DARK Dragon-Type monster you control. Once during either player's turn, when a face-up "Red-Eyes" monster would be destroyed by a card's effect, you can discard a Dragon-Type monster from your hand and to negate the its destruction. When this card is destroyed by your opponent's card and sent to the Graveyard: you can Special Summon 1 "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from your hand, Deck or Graveyard OR add 1 "Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon" from your Deck to your hand. Just a couple if fixes to the lore which I've put in bold for you (note that the commas might not be visible in bold, but I did add two commas to the text). In any case, onto the actual card: It's got potential - I have no doubts about that. However, it's rather underpowered. As you said multiple times in previous posts, it can easily played against without a problem if dueling a good player. The thing about reviewing the balance of cards is to put them against cards which are unlimited in the game currently, and against the Dark World field spell and the Dragunity field spell and many others, this doesn't really stack up against them. I'd advise you to do one of two (or maybe three things): Change the whole concept of the card, which I don't suggest because you do have a good thing with it currently, just throwing it as an idea nonetheless. Make the ATK gain bigger - 300 would suffice. I know it seems like a lot but it might be enough to balance out the card. Last effect, make it so that the player can take "Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon" to the hand. Trust me, with him at 1 playable copy, it wouldn't be overpowered but it would be just what the player might need. The last two ideas might seem overpowered, but they're not - as long as you only add one of them to the lore, absolutely NOT both. I had to cap that for emphasis' sake. I'm not trying to be brutal or anything with this review, just guiding you with some healthy criticism. However, for a first try I have to give you props - at least a 6/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anozariel Posted April 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 Thank you very much, everyone! :) Judas, thank you for the text fix and the ideas! Actually i think i do not want to force this REDD summoning with the field spell. I will make an another countinous spell card with some connection with this card what will bring some REDD support, just wait for it! Okay my continous spell is complete (except the image) so i have returned to my original desaign, with the modification of ImperiumDictatum. Watatsuki no Toyohime, if you ever find that deck somewhere, i would be more than happy if you would be so kind to send a PM about it. BTW since everybody find so low the ATK boost of this card i will apply your idea with a little boost. Thanks! ImperiumDictatum, hm... actually dunno. OKAY let's do that! LiteratureDude96 i applied your text-fix, thanks! REDM just not the card what i really want to force. I have a sure bet that the REDM will be banned in the near future. It is already easy to search, or bring forth with the Divine Dragon Apocralyph. At the moment i want to focus on the "abandoned" Red-Eyes monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judαs Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Each "Red-Eyes" monster(s) gains 100 ATK for each DARK Dragon-Type monster you control. Once during either player's turn, when a face-up "Red-Eyes" monster would be destroyed by a card's effect, you can discard a Dragon-Type monster from your hand and to negate the its destruction. When this card is destroyed by your opponent's card and sent to the Graveyard: you can Special Summon 1 "Red-Eyes B. Dragon" from your hand, Deck or Graveyard OR add 1 "Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon" from your Deck to your hand. That is not advanced OCG. Also there is no such thing as "negating destruction". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUE RULER^(Imper.Di ) Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 That is not advanced OCG. Also there is no such thing as "negating destruction". A proper but not the only way for it to be rephrased is : Once during either player's turn, when a face-up "Red-Eyes" monster would be destroyed by a card's effect, you can discard 1 Dragon-Type monster from your hand instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anozariel Posted April 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 That is not advanced OCG. Also there is no such thing as "negating destruction". Aye sir! Sorry for this. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugPhoenix Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Oh my sorry! didnt see it was just REDD I thought it was metal. then thats fine IMo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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