Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Some rap is good, but the more ignorant rap is unbearable. Same things goes for country (which I actually hate 99.99% of it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHINI [THE CHAOS] Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I have become extremely irritated reading those "92% of teenagers have moved on to rap music..." Surprise! That's not true! But that's not the topic of this discussion. The topic is that Rap is not' date=' in fact, "Retards Attempting Poetry." If anyone thinking that has ever listened to an actual good rap song, I would be surprised. You probably heard "Crank Dat" and said, "ewwwwthissucks". You are right. But then you continue by saying that all rap is bad. That is, in fact, untrue. I used to think rap was stupid...when I was an immature 10 year old. Do you all want to be immature 10 year olds? I'm not trying to convince anyone to listen to rap, I'm just saying there needs to be some tolerance among you young "haters". Those of you who think Blink-182 or some other terrible 'music' is the best ever and that every other group is bad. Seriously. Rap is not bad. It's music. And quite frankly, it's better than a lot of what people claim to be 'music'. [/rant']I totally agree with this statement. Soulja Boy is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I have become extremely irritated reading those "92% of teenagers have moved on to rap music..." Surprise! That's not true! But that's not the topic of this discussion. The topic is that Rap is not' date=' in fact, "Retards Attempting Poetry." If anyone thinking that has ever listened to an actual good rap song, I would be surprised. You probably heard "Crank Dat" and said, "ewwwwthissucks". You are right. But then you continue by saying that all rap is bad. That is, in fact, untrue. I used to think rap was stupid...when I was an immature 10 year old. Do you all want to be immature 10 year olds? I'm not trying to convince anyone to listen to rap, I'm just saying there needs to be some tolerance among you young "haters". Those of you who think Blink-182 or some other terrible 'music' is the best ever and that every other group is bad. Seriously. Rap is not bad. It's music. And quite frankly, it's better than a lot of what people claim to be 'music'. [/rant'] (The links in this post contain interesting material. Viewer discretion is advised.) And now you're what? 11, 12, 13? Back up your reasoning. Calling us immature 10 year-olds doesn't work when you put no reasoning behind it. If you wish to debate, do it well. Can't go insulting other people's tastes in music while defending your own, that's called being a hypocrite. Rap is not music, it's some drunk idiot spewing (derogatory terms towards women|drug-related terms|alcohol-related terms|swear words) into a microphone to a beat, that some people refer to as mildly entertaining due to the fact that mass marketing has melted their minds and the 'music' itself has destroyed all other appreciation for the art form. Win? Yes. Stop being a bunch of 13 year-old boys and be quiet. Keep in mind I wrote this post for the lulz, and because you are so wrong in so many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Diviner Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Raps all right, slim shadys cool.Not my fave though.HORUS who are you calling a stupid 10 year old ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 guy's thought Horus is right he has written it completly wrong, rap IS good but some people dont like it, well it's fine i tried Country and i hate it and i tried Rock and i like it.' Note the the ones who didnt try it ARE the Immature 10 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 For the first time ever im actually gonna say Darkthorne is fully correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 he isnt fully correct, only half correct. rap isnt that, you just dont listen to the song properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 In my eyes he is, and thats precisely the point CD; OPINIONS. The entire thread is based on opinions, and Horus did not take that into account when making this thread; hence why this below is totally true; Can't go insulting other people's tastes in music while defending your own, that's called being a hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ingo Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Lets just say RAP SUCKS xD OK i didn't mean that :DI don't like rap but its cool.. My bro likes rap thats why i can't "HATE" it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Definition Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Ok not to burst the bubble, but, Yeah it sucks (Rap) and if i could go back in time i would make sure rap was never started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Oh, I forgot that I had that in my signature. Well, so actually you are irritated because the message contains an maybe untrue fact, and that it says that Rap is not real music? Well, of course we are not to decide that rap is bad, but who is? If I ever read somewhere that Disturbed suck, I read it as he just doesn't agree with me that Disturbed is good. Nobody can really decide what music is good and what bad.I just copied it to my signature because I agreed that rap is bad (and with 'rap is bad' I mean that I don't like rap). How can you be mad about a fact if it is actually just an opinion? I don't mean anything with it and I just don't care. Anyways, if it really bothers you, I edited my sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 In my eyes he is' date=' and thats precisely the point CD; OPINIONS. The entire thread is based on opinions, and Horus did not take that into account when making this thread; hence why this below is totally true; Can't go insulting other people's tastes in music while defending your own, that's called being a hypocrite.[/quote'] actually it's you who's bieng hypocrite, i and you know there is good and bad rap right, but the fact is that you are ignoring good rap due to the fact that some rap is bad. it's like me saying that techno is bad because out of the 3 songs i heared 2 suck. so you will come to me and say know because you haven't heared the good but only the bad, well same is happening. you know not all rapper are "drunk idiot spewing (derogatory terms towards women|drug-related terms|alcohol-related terms|swear words) into a microphone to a beat" but only some are. so by only judging the whole rap music because of some bad rappers you are bieng a hypocrite. I am asking you to go and listen to these rap artists-T-Pain, Chris Brown, Kanye West and Akon. most of thier songs are highly entertaining and fun to listen too. so try them and these songs are very good-"Shawty Get Loose", "I'm Sprung", "Stronger", "Goodlife", "With You" and "Smack That". these are fun and nice songs to have on your MP3. they arent exactly rap but are more of R&B but it's all under the same catagory RAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted March 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I have become extremely irritated reading those "92% of teenagers have moved on to rap music..." Surprise! That's not true! But that's not the topic of this discussion. The topic is that Rap is not' date=' in fact, "Retards Attempting Poetry." If anyone thinking that has ever listened to an actual good rap song, I would be surprised. You probably heard "Crank Dat" and said, "ewwwwthissucks". You are right. But then you continue by saying that all rap is bad. That is, in fact, untrue. I used to think rap was stupid...when I was an immature 10 year old. Do you all want to be immature 10 year olds? I'm not trying to convince anyone to listen to rap, I'm just saying there needs to be some tolerance among you young "haters". Those of you who think Blink-182 or some other terrible 'music' is the best ever and that every other group is bad. Seriously. Rap is not bad. It's music. And quite frankly, it's better than a lot of what people claim to be 'music'. [/rant'] (The links in this post contain interesting material. Viewer discretion is advised.) And now you're what? 11, 12, 13? Back up your reasoning. Calling us immature 10 year-olds doesn't work when you put no reasoning behind it. If you wish to debate, do it well. Can't go insulting other people's tastes in music while defending your own, that's called being a hypocrite. Rap is not music, it's some drunk idiot spewing (derogatory terms towards women|drug-related terms|alcohol-related terms|swear words) into a microphone to a beat, that some people refer to as mildly entertaining due to the fact that mass marketing has melted their minds and the 'music' itself has destroyed all other appreciation for the art form. Win? Yes. Stop being a bunch of 13 year-old boys and be quiet. Keep in mind I wrote this post for the lulz, and because you are so wrong in so many ways. What do I need to back up? I'm stating complete and utter fact when I say that not all rap sucks. Did you miss the point that I'm trying to put along? I'm trying to say that there is a difference between what you dislike and what is bad. I'm getting at tolerance. Just because you don't like rap, doesn't mean it sucks. OPINION IS NOT FACT. OPINION IS OPINION. FACT IS FACT. I used to think rap sucks. I was 10. I found Immortal Technique and some other rappers and I like them. Other rappers I dislike, but that doesn't mean they suck. Sure, some rappers suck. But so does lots of rock bands too. By the way, I'm 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 In my eyes he is' date=' and thats precisely the point CD; OPINIONS. The entire thread is based on opinions, and Horus did not take that into account when making this thread; hence why this below is totally true; Can't go insulting other people's tastes in music while defending your own, that's called being a hypocrite.[/quote'] actually it's you who's bieng hypocrite, i and you know there is good and bad rap right, but the fact is that you are ignoring good rap due to the fact that some rap is bad. it's like me saying that techno is bad because out of the 3 songs i heared 2 suck. so you will come to me and say know because you haven't heared the good but only the bad, well same is happening. you know not all rapper are "drunk idiot spewing (derogatory terms towards women|drug-related terms|alcohol-related terms|swear words) into a microphone to a beat" but only some are. so by only judging the whole rap music because of some bad rappers you are bieng a hypocrite. I am asking you to go and listen to these rap artists-T-Pain, Chris Brown, Kanye West and Akon. most of thier songs are highly entertaining and fun to listen too. so try them and these songs are very good-"Shawty Get Loose", "I'm Sprung", "Stronger", "Goodlife", "With You" and "Smack That". these are fun and nice songs to have on your MP3. they arent exactly rap but are more of R&B but it's all under the same catagory RAP. Lawl, you named the worst songs for examples. I would know it, my brother is addicted to rap, like the rest of the US's 10 year-old population. All those "artists" ARE drunk idiots spewing (derogatory terms towards women|drug-related terms|alcohol-related terms|swear words) into a microphone to a beat. I'm not being a hypocrite. I'm not defending my tastes, just stating a slur of facts and opinions about yours in an attempt to irritate you and get a debate going. I do believe it's working. Your post is... I have become extremely irritated reading those "92% of teenagers have moved on to rap music..." Surprise! That's not true! But that's not the topic of this discussion. The topic is that Rap is not' date=' in fact, "Retards Attempting Poetry." If anyone thinking that has ever listened to an actual good rap song, I would be surprised. You probably heard "Crank Dat" and said, "ewwwwthissucks". You are right. But then you continue by saying that all rap is bad. That is, in fact, untrue. I used to think rap was stupid...when I was an immature 10 year old. Do you all want to be immature 10 year olds? I'm not trying to convince anyone to listen to rap, I'm just saying there needs to be some tolerance among you young "haters". Those of you who think Blink-182 or some other terrible 'music' is the best ever and that every other group is bad. Seriously. Rap is not bad. It's music. And quite frankly, it's better than a lot of what people claim to be 'music'. [/rant'] (The links in this post contain interesting material. Viewer discretion is advised.) And now you're what? 11, 12, 13? Back up your reasoning. Calling us immature 10 year-olds doesn't work when you put no reasoning behind it. If you wish to debate, do it well. Can't go insulting other people's tastes in music while defending your own, that's called being a hypocrite. Rap is not music, it's some drunk idiot spewing (derogatory terms towards women|drug-related terms|alcohol-related terms|swear words) into a microphone to a beat, that some people refer to as mildly entertaining due to the fact that mass marketing has melted their minds and the 'music' itself has destroyed all other appreciation for the art form. Win? Yes. Stop being a bunch of 13 year-old boys and be quiet. Keep in mind I wrote this post for the lulz, and because you are so wrong in so many ways. ( A ) What do I need to back up? I'm stating complete and utter fact *opinion when I say that not all rap sucks. ( B ) Did you miss the point that I'm trying to put along? I'm trying to say that there is a difference between what you dislike and what is bad. ( C ) I'm getting at tolerance. Just because you don't like rap, doesn't mean it sucks. ( D ) OPINION IS NOT FACT. OPINION IS OPINION. FACT IS FACT. ( E ) I used to think rap sucks. I was 10. I found Immortal Technique and some other rappers and I like them. Other rappers I dislike, but that doesn't mean they suck. ( F ) Sure, some rappers suck. But so does *do lots of rock bands too. ( G ) By the way, I'm 16. A. You're wrong, actually. The quality of music is subjective, and as such, it's each individual's opinion whether or not it's good or bad. Music is music, but the word music implies instruments with vocals, not the aforementioned material. B. I didn't miss the point. And as I said earlier, each individual decides upon the quality of the music, and may try to influence others, but it's entirely subjective. C. Tolerance hasn't anything to do with the matter. Read A and B. D. Agreed... because that's obvious, and anyone who doesn't believe it is, to put it bluntly, and idiot. E. You were 10 when you disliked rap? Congrats, you lasted longer than most. And once again, because it's subjective, it's up to you if they suck. And don't say it isn't subjective, because it is entirely and in every way. F. Once again, you can't insult music while you're attempting to back up rap. G. Could've fooled me. iWin. Yeah? Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 In my eyes he is' date=' and thats precisely the point CD; OPINIONS. The entire thread is based on opinions, and Horus did not take that into account when making this thread; hence why this below is totally true; Can't go insulting other people's tastes in music while defending your own, that's called being a hypocrite.[/quote'] actually it's you who's bieng hypocrite, i and you know there is good and bad rap right, but the fact is that you are ignoring good rap due to the fact that some rap is bad. it's like me saying that techno is bad because out of the 3 songs i heared 2 suck. so you will come to me and say know because you haven't heared the good but only the bad, well same is happening. you know not all rapper are "drunk idiot spewing (derogatory terms towards women|drug-related terms|alcohol-related terms|swear words) into a microphone to a beat" but only some are. so by only judging the whole rap music because of some bad rappers you are bieng a hypocrite. I am asking you to go and listen to these rap artists-T-Pain, Chris Brown, Kanye West and Akon. most of thier songs are highly entertaining and fun to listen too. so try them and these songs are very good-"Shawty Get Loose", "I'm Sprung", "Stronger", "Goodlife", "With You" and "Smack That". these are fun and nice songs to have on your MP3. they arent exactly rap but are more of R&B but it's all under the same catagory RAP. Fail in a can = True Failed Post. Tisk Tisk, debates are not fun unless the person your debating with comes up with good points, not the trash you spoke of. I do not listen to RAP because of personal choice wether or not there maybe 'good' rap; i would not like it, as im sure rap does not include robotic voice, harsh electro noises, and constant pounding techno beats. This entire thread is just a way to Preach music tastes; and I, I Know alot about the Music industry, and the only thing i hate, is those is try to get points across about Musical tastes, and i HATE preachers. Its a pointless effort, it does nothing but anger people and make everyone think; 'What a waste of time' You cannot alter anyones opinions by saying 'some rap is good', many will not listen and for the majority of us WE DONT CARE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Whisper Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I say you should just get TKill93 to lock this thread, it may be a good discussion, but it won't change alot of people. People stick to their views like duck-tape. meaing it's extremely hard to change their opinions. I am suggesting LOCk because some people on here don't like arguements that are based on opinions only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Lolkminimod. I'm enjoying this debate. Keep it open, I don't like to end things without a surrender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusei Fudou Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 "Do you want to be all immature 10-year-olds" Yeah, we'd be like you.. hmm? Insulting people for not listening to some sort of genre. Wow. Really mature. xD I'm not trying to convince anyone to listen to rap' date=' I'm just saying there needs to be some tolerance among you young "haters". Those of you who think Blink-182 or some other terrible 'music' is the best ever and that every other group is bad.[/quote'] Young? I'm 21, older than you. While you're irritated of people insulting rap as terrible, you've just insulted their music terrible while telling them not to insult your fav. genre. Rap is not bad. It's music. And quite frankly' date=' it's better than a lot of what people claim to be 'music'.[/quote'] That's an opinion. You can't just say out "Your music sucks, my music is good and you all never talk bad about my music" >.> You're not going to change anything anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry OldMaster Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 ^ keep the meanieness SHARP! :D personally I don't care about rap at all. Don't listen to a lot of music. I rather play it. And then we're talking about just simple, old, faithfull jazz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Congrats Mr. Mare, you said everything I did. -___- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusei Fudou Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Congrats Mr. Mare' date=' you said everything I did. -___-[/quote'] I didn't see no one's replies tbh. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SephirothKirby Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Yes, but opinion is not fact. Disliking something does not mean it is bad. Music like Ray Kaane is good. Music like Blink-182 is bad. i could really like Blink-182, but does that make them good? Some people hate hawaiian music. does that make Ray Kaane bad? what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Yes' date=' but opinion is not fact.[/b'] Disliking something does not mean it is bad. Music like Ray Kaane is good. Music like Blink-182 is bad. i could really like Blink-182, but does that make them good? Some people hate hawaiian music. does that make Ray Kaane bad? what I originally LOL'd when Horus said that; Bless Horus ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silencerleader Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I just don't like it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco Straybyrn Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 That's not what this topic is about; your opinion is irrelevant. Join the debate, or don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.