Bujin Relic - Hachi

[Zazubat]

This card might actually not be as good for them as you think. I have been playing with it a bit, and here's my reasons why it isn't worth using over MST:

1.It needs to be in the Grave. Meaning that if your opponent controls the Grave with something like Macro, you can't get rid it like you normally could.
2.It's a monster rather than a Spell/Trap, and while that makes a few things unable to counter it, there's also things that do counter it.
3.You need to have a Bujin Beast-Warrior out, and if you cannot make your move because of an annoying Spell/Trap preventing you, a MST is way more handy.
4.If you draw this instead of MST, you need it in the Grave first. You'll need to wait a turn, or have some other way to put it there.
5.It's an Ignition, which means you can only use it during your turn, it cannot be activated in response to anything.
6.It's not that important to destroy anything that's face-down, so why not just use Murakumo? It also gets rid of more targets, and while if you have this and Murakumo, you can get rid of 2 things.  Most of the time, Decks you will find only really need 1 card to play and it's very rarely that it's a Spell/Trap, and Murakumo is way more flexable on it's own, as you're not gonna incounter any face-downs that will become a problem, or at least extreamly rarely.

 I'm not gonna run this guy, and stick with my MST in there instead, unless you people somehow can counteract my points.

 

 

 

If you control a "Bujin" Beast-Warrior-Type monster: You can banish this card from your Graveyard, then target 1 Spell/Trap Card your opponent controls; destroy that target. You can only use the effect of "Bujin Relic - Hachi" once per turn.

 

[Judαs]

I don't know why you made such a long post, at first glance this does look like crap anyway. lol

Unless this is a Beast-Warrior, but it's probably not (too lazy to check the page.)

[Zazubat]

I don't know why you made such a long post, at first glance this does look like crap anyway. lol

Unless this is a Beast-Warrior, but it's probably not (too lazy to check the page.)

It's a Beast. Anyway, people in the old thread (has died) were praising this, myself included, but since I have played with it a bit, I don't like it at all.

[Althemia]

You play it as a one of just because of the fact that it's a 1700 Bujin beater that activates in the Graveyard. Out of all of the games I've played against stuff, I've always managed to get the Beast-Warrior seeing as you now have upwards to a 90% chance of getting it in your opening hand or something like that from the statistics I've seen so this is nearly always live and dumpable by Susano'o for a searchable MST.

[Zazubat]

You play it as a one of just because of the fact that it's a 1700 Bujin beater that activates in the Graveyard. Out of all of the games I've played against stuff, I've always managed to get the Beast-Warrior seeing as you now have upwards to a 90% chance of getting it in your opening hand or something like that from the statistics I've seen so this is nearly always live and dumpable by Susano'o for a searchable MST.

I would maybe consider having 1 MST and one of these, because it does have decent ATK, though honest, that's kinda about it. It can also be dumped, though the chance of you really needing to do so is slim, and I would rather dump Murakumo than this.

[TheKaitoKid]

It's good but it's not THAT good. You shouldn't be running more than 1 and you CERTAINLY shouldn't get rid of your MSTs for this. And tin response to one of your points, if your opponent has Macro up, you've pretty much already lost. Especially if it's Macro Rabbit.

[Lonk]

It's actually been live for me about 90% of the time.  I definitely swapped out my MST for this because MSTs ironically make more dead draws.  This card, however, is an MST from the GRAVE!!!  It's awesome and I should love Konami for making this card.

[Zazubat]

[quote name="Excellus" post="6207551" timestamp="1369398172"]It's actually been live for me about 90% of the time.  I definitely swapped out my MST for this because MSTs ironically make more dead draws.  This card, however, is an MST from the GRAVE!!!  It's awesome and Ie should love Konami for making this card.[/quote] The thing is, it's a worse Murakumo, the good thing it has over it is that it gets facedowns, and honestly, most of the time thats just not needed. An extra monster is nice, but I just find it eh.

[Lonk]

The thing is, it's a worse Murakumo, the good thing it has over it is that it gets facedowns, and honestly, most of the time thats just not needed. An extra monster is nice, but I just find it eh.

 

Then you don't apparantly have my crappy-anal luck when it comes to drawing MSTs at the wrong time all the time.  It's still a searchable MST and can be used with Murakumo for wiping out 2 cards your opponent has.

[Zazubat]

Then you don't apparantly have my crappy-anal luck when it comes to drawing MSTs at the wrong time all the time. It's still a searchable MST and can be used with Murakumo for wiping out 2 cards your opponent has.

You do run Summoner Monk right? That will stop crap like that. And there are good things with this as if there is gonna be a dead draw then having this is better than mst

[Lonk]

You do run Summoner Monk right? That will stop crap like that. And there are good things with this as if there is gonna be a dead draw then having this is better than mst

 

Even when running Monk, MST was still horrible for me :/

 

Also, I replaced Monk with Mikazuchi in my new build.  He's very useful.

[newhat]

0: It is an electric centipede.

[TheTurtleOnceCalledGod]

Overall, the Bujin's are slowly becoming a more powerful deck.

[Aerion Brightflame]

It's not needed, this format. Because this format, MST is not needed.

 

But, in a different format, this will be really really good. (Well it's good already, but useable good)

[Strider Tigerwolf]

Runs: 1 of this, 1 MST

Sides: 1 MST and 1 of This