Eury Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Well apparently it aided some FTK go off so I am happy with it at one if I don't get to watch my opponent play solitaire. Birdman isn't the problem with the FTK. The problem is Wind and Blaze Fenix, and Blaze Fenix is what FTKs. Also, the FTK requires Harpie Dancer. This whole thing is confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull3tM0nk3y Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 FTKs aren't bad. There are tons of them, and yet it if we ban one card, it hinders other non-FTK decks. You can't win them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Birdman isn't the problem with the FTK. The problem is Wind and Blaze Fenix, and Blaze Fenix is what FTKs. Also, the FTK requires Harpie Dancer. This whole thing is confusing. It is quite confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 FTKs aren't bad. There are tons of them, and yet it if we ban one card, it hinders other non-FTK decks. You can't win them all. Except with this one, hitting Blaze Fenix makes the FTK dead without hitting any non-FTK decks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eury Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Except with this one, hitting Blaze Fenix makes the FTK dead without hitting any non-FTK decks Pretty much this, and the FTK needs THREE Fenix, so they wouldn't even have to ban him. Also for those who don't know the FTK, this is it: Activate Divine Wind of Mist Valley NS Dancer activate effect bounce herself to NS Dancer back SS Genex Blastfan A from Divine Wind search Genex Ally Birdman A Return Blastfan with Birdman effect, SS Birdman Synchro Birdman & Dancer into Ancient Fairy Dragon A Ancient Fairy effect remove Divine wind A for Divine wind B Ancient Fairy effect SS Blastfan A search Birdman B Return Blastfan for Birdman, SS Birdman SS Blastfan B from Divine Wind search Birdman C Synchro Blastfan B & Birdman B into Ancient Fairy B Ancient Fairy effect remove Divine wind B for Divine wind C Ancient Fairy effect SS Blastfan A search for Genex Recycled Return Blastfan for Birdman, SS Birdman SS Elemental HERO Stratos from Divine wind search Elemental HERO Heat Birdman & Stratos into Ancient Fairy Dragon C Ancient Fairy effect remove Divine Wind C for Black Garden Ancient Fairy effect SS Genex Recycled Synchro Ancient Fairy & Genex Recycled into Genex Ally Axel Axel effect Discard Blastfan for Genex Recycled Xyz both Ancient Fairy into Number 42: Starship Galaxy Tomahawk Tomahawk eff SS Token x2 Synchro Recycled Genex & Tomahawk token into Power Tool Dragon Power Tool effect search for Symbol of Heritage SS Ancient Fairy with Symbol Ancient Fairy effect remove Black Garden for Fusion Gate Fusion Gate effect Fuse Heat & Tomahawk token into Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bomardment Bird Blaze Fenix A effect 3600 damage burn! (5 tokens on opponent field + Tomahawk + Tomahawk token + Power Tool + Axel + Ancient Fairy + Fusion Gate + Itself ) Fuse Blaze Fenix & Tomahawk into Blaze Fenix B Blaze Fenix B effect 3300 damage burn! (5 tokens on opponent field + Tomahawk + Power Tool + Axel + Ancient Fairy + Fusion Gate + Itself) Blaze Fenix B & Power Tool/Axel into Blaze Fenix C Blaze Fenix C effect 3000 damage burn! (5 tokens on opponent field + Tomahawk + Power Tool/Axel + Ancient Fairy + Fusion Gate + Itself) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoaXChEqz0Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 There's also the fact that Birdman + Divine Wind in Harpies leads to a turn 1 Dracosack and Shock Master. So that's another reason why they did it, because Harpies are degenerate basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 There's also the fact that Birdman + Divine Wind in Harpies leads to a turn 1 Dracosack and Shock Master. So that's another reason why they did it, because Harpies are degenerate basically. How many Divine Winds do you need to actually make that work though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 How many Divine Winds do you need to actually make that work though?iirc just 2. Though really Birdman is used for a lot of degenerate stuff because it's design is like ew. I don't mind them hitting this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawkobo Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 And of course, now that Harpie Dance FTK is dead, that just means that everyone that likes Fenix is going to mosy on over to Electrum FTK, where you can use Fenix or friggin' Gustav Max to do absurd crap simply by looping through Chain Material. And even with the boost to Harpies, this makes them a lot more stale. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Pretty much this, and the FTK needs THREE Fenix, so they wouldn't even have to ban him. Also for those who don't know the FTK, this is it: Activate Divine Wind of Mist Valley NS Dancer activate effect bounce herself to NS Dancer back SS Genex Blastfan A from Divine Wind search Genex Ally Birdman A Return Blastfan with Birdman effect, SS Birdman Synchro Birdman & Dancer into Ancient Fairy Dragon A Ancient Fairy effect remove Divine wind A for Divine wind B Ancient Fairy effect SS Blastfan A search Birdman B Return Blastfan for Birdman, SS Birdman SS Blastfan B from Divine Wind search Birdman C Synchro Blastfan B & Birdman B into Ancient Fairy B Ancient Fairy effect remove Divine wind B for Divine wind C Ancient Fairy effect SS Blastfan A search for Genex Recycled Return Blastfan for Birdman, SS Birdman SS Elemental HERO Stratos from Divine wind search Elemental HERO Heat Birdman & Stratos into Ancient Fairy Dragon C Ancient Fairy effect remove Divine Wind C for Black Garden Ancient Fairy effect SS Genex Recycled Synchro Ancient Fairy & Genex Recycled into Genex Ally Axel Axel effect Discard Blastfan for Genex Recycled Xyz both Ancient Fairy into Number 42: Starship Galaxy Tomahawk Tomahawk eff SS Token x2 Synchro Recycled Genex & Tomahawk token into Power Tool Dragon Power Tool effect search for Symbol of Heritage SS Ancient Fairy with Symbol Ancient Fairy effect remove Black Garden for Fusion Gate Fusion Gate effect Fuse Heat & Tomahawk token into Blaze Fenix, the Burning Bomardment Bird Blaze Fenix A effect 3600 damage burn! (5 tokens on opponent field + Tomahawk + Tomahawk token + Power Tool + Axel + Ancient Fairy + Fusion Gate + Itself ) Fuse Blaze Fenix & Tomahawk into Blaze Fenix B Blaze Fenix B effect 3300 damage burn! (5 tokens on opponent field + Tomahawk + Power Tool + Axel + Ancient Fairy + Fusion Gate + Itself) Blaze Fenix B & Power Tool/Axel into Blaze Fenix C Blaze Fenix C effect 3000 damage burn! (5 tokens on opponent field + Tomahawk + Power Tool/Axel + Ancient Fairy + Fusion Gate + Itself) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoaXChEqz0Q I've honestly never experienced Harpie FTK before, but this is quite convoluted. But I can imagine the amount of pride that comes out of this. IMO, I'm more comfortable with my version of the OTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 I really liked this card and it is sad to see it go to one. I guess with Trishula coming back it had to be done so people wouldn't be able to get it out as easy. why would they bring trish back? who the fuck thought that is a good idea and what the fuck are they smoking because I want some of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted August 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 why would they bring trish back? who the fuck thought that is a good idea and what the fuck are they smoking because I want some of it. Konami was looking forward to a slower format, so they decided to revive Synchros, which had to include that good old trolling Ice barrier Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 birdman in general does some stupid crap, even out of the context of divine wind decks. it needed to be curtailed. they shouldve hit blaze fenix too, but saying fenix deserves the hit INSTEAD of birdman is wrong. fenix does bad stuff without birdman. birdman does bad stuff without fenix. theyre both bad cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 birdman in general does some stupid crap-Idiotic/situational OTKs aside...His shenanigans are hardly ever gamebreaking, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Idiotic/situational OTKs aside...But that's the problem. He is featured in too many degenerate things to not warrant a hit by now. If anything, hitting him was a good idea because it allows them more freedom in terms of card design that Birdman previously prohibited by it's existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Now. If only they'd hit Blaze Fenix as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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