PrimeAceJohn Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I kinda like how the Rulers could literally go into any Deck (except those that are Light or Dark), like Fire Fist, Mermails, Gadgets, etc. I liked the idea and thought I made these. I'm sorta' in the feel in whether or not it OP or UP so please help a brotha out! ZELFAIS, DRAGON LORD OF RAGE LIGHT * * * * * * * * [Dragon / Effect] This card is also treated as a WATER and WIND monster anywhere. You can only control 1 face-up "Zelfais, Dragon Lord of Rage." Only this card can attack your opponent. If this card attacks, you must discard 1 card or lose 500 Life Points. You can Special Summon this card by banishing 2 LIGHT, WIND, and/or WATER monsters from your Graveyard. Then, you can activate one of the effects according to the attribute of the monsters banished by this effect: -LIGHT: Destroy 1 card on the field. (This effect can only be used once). -WIND: Your opponent must discard 1 random card. -WATER: Gain 1000 Life Points. ATK/ 2500 DEF/ 2500 ZULRAIS, DRAGON LORD OF REVENGE DARK * * * * * * * * [Dragon / Effect] This card is also treated as a FIRE and EARTH monster anywhere. You can only control 1 face-up "Zulrais, Dragon Lord of Revenge." Only this card can attack your opponent. If this card attacks, you must discard 1 card or pay 500 Life Points. You can Special Summon this card by banishing 2 DARK, EARTH, and/or FIRE monsters from your Graveyard. Then, you can activate one of the effects according to the attribute of the monsters banished by this effect: -DARK: Destroy 1 card on the field. (This effect can only be used once). -EARTH: Monster your opponent currently control lose 500 ATK and DEF. -FIRE: Inflict 1000 or direct damage to your opponent's Life Points; then lose 500 Life Points. ATK/ 2500 DEF/ 2500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therrion Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 I don't see the point in (this can only be used once) when it says activate one of the following effects, suggesting that you can't use the same one twice (and if you somehow can, Wind needs to calm down and have that clause with it, because 2 hits to hand is absurd for mono-WIND to have access to). I don't like it. I just don't feel like DARK and LIGHT should have access to these things, since they were given so much love for ever (though it helps other attributes, so I don't know). I also feel like we can't just keep supporting Attributes by giving them monsters that banish their Graveyard to Summon and make plays with, I feel like it should be different and each Attribute should return to getting individualized support rather than similar support for all (though all should continue receiving support). I do like how they're Level 8 though, so it differs from Rulers, and also promote or don't punish mixing attributes. Though, would've preferred WATER with EARTH and FIRE with WIND. I think EARTH and FIRE both need power ups, since Tremendous Fire is laughable and that small reduction of ATK even more so (1000 at least). BOLD = Review Italics = Rant/Thoughts on idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeAceJohn Posted September 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 I don't see the point in (this can only be used once) when it says activate one of the following effects, suggesting that you can't use the same one twice (and if you somehow can, Wind needs to calm down and have that clause with it, because 2 hits to hand is absurd for mono-WIND to have access to). I don't like it. I just don't feel like DARK and LIGHT should have access to these things, since they were given so much love for ever (though it helps other attributes, so I don't know). I also feel like we can't just keep supporting Attributes by giving them monsters that banish their Graveyard to Summon and make plays with, I feel like it should be different and each Attribute should return to getting individualized support rather than similar support for all (though all should continue receiving support). I do like how they're Level 8 though, so it differs from Rulers, and also promote or don't punish mixing attributes. Though, would've preferred WATER with EARTH and FIRE with WIND. I think EARTH and FIRE both need power ups, since Tremendous Fire is laughable and that small reduction of ATK even more so (1000 at least). BOLD = Review Italics = Rant/Thoughts on idea Thanks for the amazing review:) About this: I don't see the point in (this can only be used once) when it says activate one of the following effects, suggesting that you can't use the same one twice (and if you somehow can, Wind needs to calm down and have that clause with it, because 2 hits to hand is absurd for mono-WIND to have access to). The thing about 'this can only be used once' in the clause with Light and Dark, i did that because popping 2 for banishing to was too OP. Basically specifying, 'This can only be used one' means it can only pop 1 even if banishing 2 Lights. And yes, you can use the same one twice. The Wind could be considered OP in some sense, but the drawbacks make up for that. I don't like it. I just don't feel like DARK and LIGHT should have access to these things, since they were given so much love for ever (though it helps other attributes, so I don't know). I also feel like we can't just keep supporting Attributes by giving them monsters that banish their Graveyard to Summon and make plays with, I feel like it should be different and each Attribute should return to getting individualized support rather than similar support for all (though all should continue receiving support). The reasoning behind these two cards are to be versatile in any deck. Rulers don't support Light or Dark, which I guess could seem good. But the drawbacks, as I said, make up for it. In many decks, these could be mostly sided. Only these guys can attacks, and when it does, you have to discard 1 or pay. This means all your other monsters can't make a move, leaving you with only 1 25 Beater. The main question is: Is it worth summoning? The fact that it only has a one time effect when summoned and can only attack when discarding or paying, AND only it can attack. So this brings me back about how you said Wind needs to calm down. Sure, you can discard 2 from your opponents hand and have only 1 monster with 25 be able to attack, but this can really slow the game up. I know more people would think about paying 500 is nothing, but think about this, when one of these guys attack 3 time; that's 1500 damage inflicted to you. Nonetheless, I ask again, is it really worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therrion Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 A 2500, easy as all hell to Summon beat stick is always worth Summoning, as long as it isn't being ran in a EARTH/FIRE Deck. Destroying a card, Moulinglacia-ing, or gaining 2000 are all worthy one time effects. I just don't think its good for the game, but hey, they're not being released so what does it matter~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeAceJohn Posted September 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 A 2500, easy as all hell to Summon beat stick is always worth Summoning, as long as it isn't being ran in a EARTH/FIRE Deck. Destroying a card, Moulinglacia-ing, or gaining 2000 are all worthy one time effects. I just don't think its good for the game, but hey, they're not being released so what does it matter~ Yeah but the beat stick part comes at a price. If you really want to attack with it, you must pay the fee; discard 1 or pay 500. And like I said, after one of these guys attacks for just 3 turns, that an auto -1500 to you (unless you discard instead) AND your other monsters can't make a move. Yeah destroying 1, making your opponent discard 2, and gaining 2000 are really not so amazing after the effect. The effect goes off right when its summoned and only that time. You can't spam these because you can't have 2 of the same name so its hard even if you want to overlay it. It's an easy target like other monsters for dark hole, mirror, etc. so it's not like its a godly card. But thanks for the reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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